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Posted by Juim on Tue Oct 7th at 2:44pm 2003

Well the rumors begin.
http://www.bluesnews.com/





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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Tue Oct 7th at 2:53pm 2003

if this is true then I would say that VALVe are getting too worried about cheats.

They could make substantial amounts more out of their work releasing it before christmas.

If I were in their shoes id release it before christmas even if it has a high posibility of cheats due to the code being leaked because of the money loss involved.

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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Oct 7th at 3:00pm 2003

call it cynical, but... you have a game , thats 5 years old, but the public wants another, what do you do?

you post a release date, that cannot be achieved, then as the time approaches, someone hacks your system and steals a valuable piece of it...

i see a pattern here, even if no one else does..

i still hear a faint echo.. " when its done "

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Posted by Juim on Tue Oct 7th at 3:08pm 2003

yet another.http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3568878



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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Oct 7th at 3:15pm 2003

i'm tellin'ya... they set themselves a date, they knew they couldn't meet, and this is the cover-up for it..

why else, would we have heard nada for so long, then BAM, a release date, to a game that didn't exist..

*mumbles*

i hope i am wrong, but, i have this feeling... i'm not wrong, much..

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Posted by Adam Hawkins on Tue Oct 7th at 3:36pm 2003

I was kinda thinking along the same lines Orph - this 'leak' is the perfect excuse to push back the release date without admitting that its just not ready yet.

April 2004 for Pete's sake?! Does it really take that long to replace cheat code stuff?

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Posted by Edge Damodred on Tue Oct 7th at 3:44pm 2003

It depends on what section of the code to that has to be rewritten.  If a lot of the base classes were stolen, yeah, there'd be a s**tload to rewrite. [addsig]



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Posted by Adam Hawkins on Tue Oct 7th at 3:54pm 2003

But would it take until April 2004? Bearing in mind that it took them 4 years to code the engine, build all the levels, make all the textures, sounds, gameplay & testing etc? Seems like their telling porky-pies to me [addsig]



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Posted by matt on Tue Oct 7th at 4:14pm 2003

Damn that hacker it is very annoying, another release date they've failed. [addsig]



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Posted by DocRock on Tue Oct 7th at 7:06pm 2003

It's made headline news on Yahoo now.

Delayed til April 2004

http://www.yahoo.com/s/118821





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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Tue Oct 7th at 7:25pm 2003

Yes, it's all a conspiracy...Valve knew they couldn't reach a deadline (as if those ever mattered to them before)... 

To be honest, I did it.  I needed more time to finish the Snarkpit Map...

 





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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Oct 7th at 7:26pm 2003

these people are going to force me to choose another allegiance..

 

i used to be very big on duke, couldn't wait for 4 to arrive, i put HL on hold for a while in anticipation.. but 4ever took that long, so i switched whole heartedly to HL..

Unreal is here, its here to stay, and with no delays.. its looking better and better every damned day..

*sighs*

this sux in to many ways...

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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Thu Oct 9th at 1:55am 2003

All this speculation that Valve has engineered the hacking incident just so they can delay a game release like all other devlopers do seems a tad far fetched. conspiracy theories are nearly always ridicules.





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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Thu Oct 9th at 2:29am 2003

Heh, I wonder what's going to happen to all these HL2 mods now that they won't be able to work for 6 more months. I'm thinking a good amount of the mod teams will disband or lose interest. After all; they can't keep making unskinned weapon and vehicle models the whole time, can they? [addsig]



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Posted by Finger on Thu Oct 9th at 3:08am 2003

Actually, alot of the game content can be produced.  Models, textures, sounds, storylines, concepts.  I agree though, I'm sure alot of them will fizzle out - which is good, because there are already like 1000000 gay cs/dod/ns clones out there.



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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Thu Oct 9th at 3:10am 2003

You can produce all the content you want, but it still does you no good until you can do anything with it. [addsig]



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Posted by Hornpipe2 on Thu Oct 9th at 4:46am 2003

With the recent source code release (and now playable alpha leak) it's become quite apparent that the game is in no way ready for distribution.  The current (or at least, quite recent) source code build is playable, but barely.  It is glitchy, somewhat inefficient, and missing parts from much of the game data.  There is no way Valve could release the game by September 30th.  It's probably unlikely the game would be as polished as possible even if it went gold in December.

Valve almost undoubtedly did not engineer the hack as a publicity stunt, otherwise why would they release their own working software (source code at that) and HL2 content?  God knows game companies push back release dates all the time, it isn't as if Valve needed some ridiculous excuse such as this to tell people they needed time to produce a better game.

Is the theft the direct cause for the release date being moved?  Perhaps it's a factor, but it is certainly not the only reason.  More than likely, Valve is using it as a convenient scapegoat while they take all the time they need to produce a polished finished release.

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Posted by Juim on Thu Oct 9th at 4:52am 2003

well heres a statement, apparently from one of the people who compiled what they had hacked. Story can be found at:

http://www.planethalflife.com

"QUOTE"

To all those saying HL2 was delayed because of the hacking action, ill just remind you that what was leaked is what Valve has, nothing more and nothing less, so its pretty good to understand it wasnt finished yet.

Also I'd like to point out the E3 [demo] was one big fake by Valve. Ever tried to kill that soldier in physicstown ? Notice the door will still get kicked ? No scripted sequences ?

To everyone saying this is no Beta: I'd like to point out that THIS is what you wanted Valve to release on 9/30/03, theres no such thing as a much better release in Valves network!

To Valve: I suggest you stop lying to your customers about how much was stolen/compromised, or I'll have to release everything just to prove my point. And you know what you got, as I do. "End QUOTE"

 

so the plot thickens.





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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Thu Oct 9th at 6:03am 2003

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Posted by Finger on Thu Oct 9th at 6:06am 2003

I don't see them using this as a scapegoat.  Roughly six days before the 30th, before the code leaked, Valve announced a delay of the game, with the excuse being "it's simply not done".  So, why are people so surprised, that this leak is lacking.

I think It's sad that so many people quickly turn on Valve, claiming that they are lying, corprate money whores.  The fact is..to make games of this caliber takes resources.  Valve stated that they took the profits of HL1 (and more) and put it back into HL2.  They have been more open with their fans, and the amateur developers, than any other company.  It must be hard to deal with the kiddie hype, constant questioning, and pressure from fans/publishers, to release NOW.  Then, at the end of the game, when they are working double-time to release, having the source stolen, and whored out.  It's just a little disheartening....even if there was security negligence on thier part.






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