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Posted by Yesurbius on Tue Jan 4th at 9:03am 2005

I have seen a lot of posts on the net about who the G-Man is and his role in the scope of things .. It is interesting that both the HEV suit and the crowbar wound up back in Dr. Kleiner's labs...

But there is something else in Dr. Kleiner's lab that i only *JUST* realized...

On the video surveilance system .. it shows a picture of the guard at his post .. when you put on your suit this guard leaves and Barney says "we gotta go.." If you continue to watch the screen, the camera will change and show the G-Man standing right beside the fence that the guard was at... then he walks away.

A quick 'noclip' and I found the host area for that camera shot - and it was indeed the G-Man .. standing there. I wonder where else in the game they have 'snuck' him in.




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Posted by Yesurbius on Tue Jan 4th at 9:04am 2005

Personally - I think the G-Man is Gordon Freeman in his older age (G in G-Man being Gordon, and Man being Freeman)





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Posted by Junkyard God on Tue Jan 4th at 9:08am 2005

? quoting Yesurbius
Personally - I think the G-Man is Gordon Freeman in his older age (G in G-Man being Gordon, and Man being Freeman)

hey, that is a pretty good possiblilaty, that would explain him Knowing gordon would make it in hl1 at the first place , thats cool, maybe valve got something planed for it

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Posted by DrGlass on Tue Jan 4th at 10:14am 2005

The G-man shows up alot in hl2, just as much as in hl1.

I dont know how in th hell valve would ever explane the g-man as future gordon, because....

A.) backwards time travel is impossible and even in the game world it would create a parodox that would loop till the end of time. you just CAN NOT travel back in time, try and wrap your head around it:

Your father is killed when your 10 years old, so 40 years later you travle back in time and save your dad, thus your father never was killed and you never invented time travel to save your dad who is not dead, but by not inventing time travel you arn't able to go back in time in the first place and save your father who now is dead becuase you never invented time travel. So to save your father you invent time travel and save his life. So now your stuck in a loop that will go on and on...

...unless there are parallel dimentions or sub space, etc.

B.) The G-Man looks NOTHING like freeman




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Posted by azelito on Tue Jan 4th at 11:17am 2005

I did this gif to compare.

I leave no comment on how likely it is.
At least they have the same eye-colour.
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Posted by SmeTskE on Tue Jan 4th at 11:40am 2005

WoW... I LOL when I saw that... After laughing I got kind of shocked...
Another thing I noticed, they have got the same shape of face. His cheecks have the same form too.

That's just freaky azelito... N1

I've seen the G-Man 2 times when I first played through the game... After that I went reading some other forums, and there people had mad a list, of where the G-Man shows up... I think it was around 14 times. He was in every chapter, except in Ravenholm if I can recall good. <.< chicken... (or I was just too scared to not notice him )

GrTz

SmeTskE




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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Tue Jan 4th at 11:43am 2005

They are not the same person. Why would G-man offer to kill him at the end of the first one if they were? It's also a s**te, lazy twist.
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Posted by Junkyard God on Tue Jan 4th at 12:14pm 2005

botom line is, it could be true, but it could be false, we all don't know so don't start yaping at aechother becouse you think this is sh!@, becouse you do not know! [addsig]



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Posted by azelito on Tue Jan 4th at 12:15pm 2005

? quote:
They are not the same person. Why would G-man offer to kill him at the end of the first one if they were? It's also a s**te, lazy twist.

Basicly, if the G-Man is Gordon Freeman, he knew that Gordon wouldnt choose his own death since he was alive and had already done that before. I know this is pretty f**ked up but I would not be surprised if they are the same person.
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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Tue Jan 4th at 12:22pm 2005

? quoting BioPulse
botom line is, it could be true, but it could be false, we all don't know so don't start yaping at aechother becouse you think this is sh!@, becouse you do not know!

It's a good thing you're here to police the forums. Who knows how many flamewars will be averted with BioPulse on the case!!

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Posted by Myrk- on Tue Jan 4th at 12:39pm 2005

I think you look into it too much. G-man means government man, valve already said that back in HL1. And if you payed any attention to the plot, you'll realise all hes doing is watching you to see how well you do. Your an interstellar war agent now lol! (stupid plot they screwed it up). [addsig]



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Posted by Leperous on Tue Jan 4th at 12:45pm 2005

? quoting DrGlass
I dont know how in th hell valve would ever explane the g-man as future gordon, because....

A.) backwards time travel is impossible and even in the game world it would create a parodox that would loop till the end of time. you just CAN NOT travel back in time, try and wrap your head around it:

Your father is killed when your 10 years old, so 40 years later you travle back in time and save your dad, thus your father never was killed and you never invented time travel to save your dad who is not dead, but by not inventing time travel you arn't able to go back in time in the first place and save your father who now is dead becuase you never invented time travel. So to save your father you invent time travel and save his life. So now your stuck in a loop that will go on and on...

...unless there are parallel dimentions or sub space, etc.

Nonsense. Changing the past is perhaps impossible as it's already happened by definition, and seeing as the GMan isn't killing Gordon then this is a perfectly decent time loop for him to travel!

And DrGlass, your dad has died before you travel back in time, so presumably either there is a parallel dimension, or you can't kill him if you travel back in time. Obviously a "clockwork universe" interpretation would fix this and say why, but nnnnooo we have to have all this nondeterministic nonsense





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Posted by Myrk- on Tue Jan 4th at 12:53pm 2005

Well you haven't thought about it, Lep is right.

You dad is dead, you travel back to save him, do you save hime? You-

Do- you then go on to invent time travel for a different purpose, but this doesn't seem wierd and a new different loop is formed where you don't go back to save your dad.

Do- your dad then dies again and the timeline is just shiffted forward.

Don't- he dies and you go on to realised theres no point, but the other you goes on to make the time machine.

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Posted by Myrk- on Tue Jan 4th at 12:53pm 2005

Double post again!

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Posted by wil5on on Tue Jan 4th at 1:21pm 2005

Back to the future 2 clearly states that when you go back in time to save your father, it will create a branch in the timeline. When you return to your original time, you go up the new branch instead of where you came from. Of course this theory implies that any backwards time travel will change the past, causing the timeline to branch, meaning once you have travelled back, you most likely will never return to your own universe. [addsig]



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Posted by pepper on Tue Jan 4th at 1:29pm 2005

the g-man is an alien!
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Posted by parakeet on Tue Jan 4th at 1:52pm 2005

G-man is a 1950's term for fbi agent pple . as for gordon being gman... i dont think so. Listen to how seperated gmans words are. According to a book i read about the 1950's conspiracy theories gmen were "believed" to be supernatural beings whether alien or robot nobody knew
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Posted by parakeet on Tue Jan 4th at 1:54pm 2005

also if you wait there long enough in the tram gman does kill u you are teleported to a place with like unlimited alien grunts

And then credits roll =P
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Posted by parakeet on Tue Jan 4th at 1:58pm 2005

also i hear that gravity can "supposedly" be in particle form . What would happen if you made gravitons into a lazer ... = GRAVITY GUN = P and then for the shooting of the object just use dark energy = P
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Posted by ReNo on Tue Jan 4th at 2:50pm 2005

Not ANOTHER person doing crazy consecutive posting! For gods sake, if you are adding to a post a mere few minutes later, then EDIT IT IN to the original post.

Perhaps Gordon IS G-man, and the reason he never talks is because he was never confident with his speech impediment
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