Duncan, i'll be the first to admit a biased view, but forget any posts after the spawn point comment yak made for the moment.

re-read the replies prior and see if you can detect where this might have been avoided. you are fairly level headed, but you seem afflicted with the same ability as some of the rest to only see the effects of things, not the root cause.

perhaps, yak over-reacted, hell even i was not sure why the spawn point thing came up, i said so many times. but still i can see where it went amiss.

sometimes, its not the old timers, and sometimes the new member needs to, if not be quiet, at least be accountable for the actions they set into motion.

actions they set into motion.

this is not my attempt at telling you that you may be wrong, it is my attempt at mediating this in the hopes it will go away.

please feel free to disregard my comments. it won't be the first time someone has. :/

okay.

Anyway, i will not be submitting my map for VMC. I will never have it finished. MY deadline is right NOW (seriously, i am going to bed and out of town until the 16th starting at 3:30 tomorrow. Too much COOL stuf i wanna do with my map, and not enough time. I don't wanna cut anything out, so i will build at y own pace. too bad i may have had a shot at $5000

Me too, I think Damn you real life!

Just sent the entry off to Washington, ill post my entry as soon as I can find soemone to host it....... Good luck to all that entered, we'll know who won by the 30th