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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Jan 5th at 4:52pm 2005
we have had way to many "religious/church" threads already. search backward if you really must know my views, but i don't really feel like rehashing the topic yet again.
sorry bud, ain't happening. :/
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Posted by diablobasher on Wed Jan 5th at 4:58pm 2005
The Tsunami was a terrible thing, and if scientists are right, there will be another one shortly, and maybe a third. I feel for all the families that have lost freinds or relatives in the desaster.
But, personnaly i feel that it doesnt matter, as the world has precious little resources left to last us. I think its too late to "change out ways" Bush, or someone similar will bring about the end of the world within a few years, thats my outlook. Maybe not quite so close, but 10, 20, 30 years down the line your gonna be scavenging for food (if you survived the nuclear blasts or total socio economic breakdown into anarchy) and you are gone remember Mad Max.
As for religions, no offence to anyone, but no amount of worship or awaiting the messiah will save us, we are all doomed, so we may as well use what precious little time we have to live our dull, insignificant little live that in the end will have no bearing on the universe.
Because you see, time, is just a foolish human invention to justify the reason we only live so long, Big Bang....ha....another follish thought for those who willl not accept reality, the universe was never created, or formed, it has always existed, and always will.
So, have a nice day, and remember, we'll all be dead by this time next year...
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Posted by diablobasher on Wed Jan 5th at 5:08pm 2005
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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Wed Jan 5th at 5:12pm 2005
It is utter idiocy to interpret a natural disaster as an act of God. I have my own strange theology which isn't challenged in any way by this event, but I don't feel like going into it now. IMO if this disaster is a probelm for you personaly, you haven't spent enough time contemplating your faith. Blind belief in anything is the truest form of evil I have yet encountered.
- Jahzel -
If you had any grasp of physics or thermodynamics you would never suggest that humans can control meteorological or geological events. I'm not even going to challenge your "conspiracy theory" crap since it is obvious you are a true believer. My contempt for you is boundless at this point.
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[addsig]I think you are a little off base about the likelihood of death-by-supernova, and likewise the bad placement of the earth. We are in about the best position you can imagine, but does that mean we won't get smashed by a meteor? No. As you say, it has happened before.
I very much like your point about the death of the Sun. It is something I have thought about quite often. It says in the Bible that no man will know when the end of the world will come. I guess God had better hurry his ass up and smite us before the sun becomes a red giant and engulfs the earth huh?
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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Wed Jan 5th at 5:15pm 2005
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Posted by Jahzel on Wed Jan 5th at 5:20pm 2005
Its an oppinion, not something to be demonised like the muslims.
(As predicted, uncovering the complete and utter lies and garbage the government spills out results in ridicule. If people were to just read about these things instead of rubbishing them off, maybe we have a chance of stopping this global tyranny.)
"Ignorance is bliss."
[addsig]Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Jan 5th at 5:26pm 2005
tracer-
Not everyone even knows what thermodynamics is. Some don't even know what PHYSICS is, they think it's when you can shoot a barrel in HL2 and it falls over. Don't make ppl feel bad about it.
If they wanna have thier own uneducated or religious beliefs let em.
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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Wed Jan 5th at 5:32pm 2005
Ignorance is not bliss, it is the enemy. You are certainly allowed to have silly opinions, but I can't let science fiction stand as fact.
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Posted by Gwil on Wed Jan 5th at 5:33pm 2005
Those of you who don't know, Al-CIAeda was funded/trained in America and hired to carry out the attacks on September 11th. Problem-Reaction-Solution. The official explanation of 9/11 is falling apart and people are beginning to realise the whole thing was a stepping stone to a global fascist/police state. Already 9/11 has enabled them to create the human rights-removing Patriot Acts and Homeland (In)Security.
War on Terror = More terror attacks and alerts and general scaremongering.
War on Illiteracy = More Illiteracy
War on Drugs = More Drugs
etc
Probably next-up: War on Natural Disasters = More Natural Disasters
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A lot of your "conspiracy theory" is just hearsay, imagination and outright lies. If you're interested in attacking western powers, don't dwell on this "OMG FASCIST POLICE STATE THE GOVERNMENT HAS CHIPS IN OUR BRAINS!" rubbish, it's all nonsense.
Focus your energy on questioning the Western powers role in world debt, world poverty, legacies of colonialism, unfair trade agreements and political jockeying in the former third world.
The government wants your tax and your input into the economy, it doesn't want your soul/identity/life/civil liberties. That trash is so unfounded and off the mark with what really matters.
And no this isn't me defending the American administration, honest.
Back on topic...
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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Wed Jan 5th at 5:34pm 2005
Not everyone even knows what thermodynamics is. Some don't even know what PHYSICS is, they think it's when you can shoot a barrel in HL2 and it falls over. Don't make ppl feel bad about it.
If they wanna have thier own uneducated or religious beliefs let em.
That is my biggest pet peeve with the world.
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Posted by Jahzel on Wed Jan 5th at 5:43pm 2005
Anything that questions 'the official line of events' in detail is always subject to mass ridicule, labelled as some kind of conspiracy, you get called a conspiracy kook. It's usually mainstream media and so-called education which makes sure that this attitude stays firm within the minds of the populous. It doesnt even matter if there is proof, if it is documentd, admitted, none of the truth is excepted, only rubbished.
[edit]And I'm sick of it folks, I'm sick and tired of this mass delusion that states that the Government is good and would never ever lie to us. Hasn't it occured to you that the same globalist scum-f**ks are responsible for the mass third world debts? Hasnt it occured to you that aids was introduced in the third world? Hasnt it occured to you that the 'vaccinations' being issued are killing more people in the third world than any actual illness?
If you want to believe the lies being spilled out by these creatures, thats your problem. I'm against global tyranny and government corruption and I will always be, I will never give up telling the truth and spreading it until I realise the human race is no longer enslaved by this nazi-like agenda.
I mean let me just put this into picture here, because I think it is important to know that our government is a lying, fascist organised crime syndicate.
This is CNN, 'Secretary of State Colin Powell said Tuesday the outpouring of American aid and humanitarian help in the region devastated by the tsunami may also help Muslim nations see the United States in a better light.'
What does that tell you about the globalists and their little minions such as Colin Powell?
Also, CNN, 'A Thai expert says he tried to warn the government a deadly tsunami might be sweeping towards tourist-packed beaches, but couldn't find anyone to take his calls.'
There was prior knowledge of the Tsnumai but no warnings were issued.
We are living in times of a Global 'Nazi' like State being constructed unseen all around us, and it's time we start analysing events and understanding how they correspond to the New World Order. The Tsunami couldnt have come at a better time for the Globalists.
[addsig]Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Wed Jan 5th at 5:46pm 2005
Ever seen Jaws? Key word(s), tourist-packed. They'd rather risk thousands of deaths than a false alarm and thousands (if not millions) of dollars. Horrible priorities and results, yes, but global conspiracy, no. [addsig]
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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Jan 5th at 5:51pm 2005
That is my biggest pet peeve with the world.
if i read this right, it is one of mine as well.
i know of some highly intelligent people whom believe in religion, but the ideals tend to prey on the ignorant. there are exceptions, but for the most part the uneducated are harmed most.
anywho's, if i read this wrong.. my bad.
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Posted by Gwil on Wed Jan 5th at 5:53pm 2005
I wouldn't believe everything you read/see on TV/read in half baked conspiracy websites. Most of what you have said so far is unconfirmed rhetoric based on buzzwords cobbled together by paranoid/egocentric drop outs of society.
Plus, its not on topic.
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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Jan 5th at 5:56pm 2005
*looks around*
whom are you talking to? this thread is all over the spectrum.
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Posted by Gwil on Wed Jan 5th at 5:58pm 2005
I used to be a less extreme version myself, but once you read on the topics you realise there's no conspiracy, or attempt to cover it up.
If you want dirt on the Western powers and their treatment of the Asian/African world, you can find it in the open - no conspiracy involved.
Edit - BTW, Jahzel - you are treading on very dangerous ground. There is a dozen more people here who can shoot down your conspiracy theories in flames, and show you the real dark depths of intrigue of global politics and trade movements.
Just because we disagree with you it doesn't mean we believe "the Government is good for us".
I resent your attacks on aid donations to the Indian Ocean as well - America is running a hugely unstable and stagnating economy, putting out cash to an expensive war and has problems with unemployment and to imply that their giving of cash is merely a way of exercising a stranglehold on the region is not only religious, but pretty rude to their generosity as well.
They can't afford to mobilise their colossal military and throw $500m dollars at just anythjing, and I for one applaud their moves to help the people stricken by this disaster
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Posted by Jahzel on Wed Jan 5th at 6:04pm 2005
If someone is organising an agenda behind your back which states that you are going to be enslaved, guilty until proven innocent, a terrorist under the patriot act if you commit any act of misdemenour 'which endangers lives' such as criticism of governmet policy and anti-war protest, guns taken away, your homes searched without warrant, your children taken away to quote 'secret locations' (FEMA concentration camps), FEMA 'civilian' camps being built incase of a security alert, microchip implants that 'can help find your children if they get lost and prevent terrorism', compulsary ID cards, biometric fingerprint scanning to enter your grocery store, shredding of documents, that they know prove that 9/11 was a hired event that could possibly be requested under the Freedom of Information Act, the assassination of Gary Webb, the guy who uncovered the CIA drug Trafficking Operations that lead to crack on the streets of LA, found dead in an 'apparent suicide' (official explanation) with 'two bullet wounds to the head)... The corruption is endless, folks this is a conspiracy, they are conspiring behid our backs, get used to it, theres alot more sh*t to come.
Just read the documents, read about the Patriot Act Legislation, read PNAC (Project For A New American Century) documents, - read their official line that states "we needed a Pearl Harbour Event' (9/11), read about Operation northwoods, the simulated preperation of World Trade Centre attacks prior to 9/11...
Anyway, thats enough, I'm not here to create chaos, I'm just 100% dedicated to finding out the answers that could one day make a difference. And map.
[addsig]Posted by Tracer Bullet on Wed Jan 5th at 6:11pm 2005
THE WORLD IS FLAT! IT'S ALL A HUGE CONSPIRACY!![]()
I think you understood me correctly Orph. ![]()
However, I'm not against all religion. Only religion that denies thought.
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