"Jahzel, I can honestly say I didn't even bother to read whatever bulls**t you're spouting."

^ Y' see, the attitude I was basically refering to. Everything I said is provable, admitted, documented, I've read the new 'War on Terror' proposals, I know for a fact they are taking away our human rights and civil liberties as part of this so-called global cackdown on terrorism. You are quick to label it as bullsh*t, which not only is incredably offensive, it's ignorant. Have you ever read Ashcroft patriot act? Do you know your consitutional rights? Well guess what, they are already planning on getting rid of your constitution and your human rights. Guess what, everyone is considered a potential terrorist regardless of class, race, or gender. Does that not worry you? Does it not worry you that the Government are responsible for the terrorist attacks and that they even admit that they carry out them? My friend, you need to wake yourself up.

Back on Topic-ish

Look what I found:

FORMER U.S. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE REVEALS
POSSIBLE EXISTENCE OF
EARTHQUAKE AND VOLCANO ?WEAPONS?

POSSIBLE?

DEFINITE MORE LIKE

Extracted from
http://thememoryhole.org/mil/cohen-ecoweapons.htm

US Secretary of Defense Reveals Earthquake
and Volcano Weapons

This one might seem beyond belief, but we have it from none other than a sitting Secretary of Defense. In April 1997, then-Defense Secretary William Cohen was speaking at a terrorism conference at the University of Georgia. After some introductory remarks about the conference, Cohen takes questions from the media in attendance. A reporter asks a question based on the fake anthrax letters that had recently been sent to B'nai Brith. Cohen gives a strange answer, using the occasion to mention the exotic weapons being developed by terrorists (as well as--one would assume--governments).

Here's the exchange, taken verbatim from the transcript posted on the Defense Department's Website:

Q: "Let me ask you specifically about last week's scare here in Washington, and what we might have learned from how prepared we are to deal with that (inaudible), at B'nai Brith."

A: "Well, it points out the nature of the threat. It turned out to be a false threat under the circumstances. But as we've learned in the intelligence community, we had something called -- and we have James Woolsey here to perhaps even address this question about phantom moles. The mere fear that there is a mole within an agency can set off a chain reaction and a hunt for that particular mole which can paralyze the agency for weeks and months and years even, in a search. The same thing is true about just the false scare of a threat of using some kind of a chemical weapon or a biological one. There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.

So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important."

As for religion, I've got nothing against people who want to believe in something, but I know for a fact that religion was once created as a mass brainwashing device aimed at discouraging free-thinking abilities. "Its against God's will to free-think." "Free-thinking is a sin".

"If the FBI's motivating factor for busting down the Koresh compound was child abuse, how come we never see Bradley tanks smashing into Catholic churches?" - Bill Hicks.

People, please!

KFS, proton decay is something that's meant to happen on timescales of tens+ of billions of years- certainly not within the lifetime of our sun. By which time hopefully we'll be able to create binding gluon fields or some such to keep them in one piece

Yak, I'm not trying to convert anyone, I'm not good enough at that yet! A couple more years training here though...

... because 99.9% of the time, it is just that. It's nothing to do with mainstream media- go work for a newspaper and you'll notice there isn't some shady government man post-editing your stories to keep the masses calm and content. Go work for the government, and there isn't some Knights Templar telling you to start a war against so and so to start a new world order.

Governments like controlling people, and they will often spout complete bulls**t to get their way (in case you haven't noticed already). The only people who will have the technological might to alter climates and set off volcanoes etc. are, er, those with big piles of nuclear warheads. And given Iraq et al, do you really think they're competent enough to orchestrate terrorist attacks against their own people and "get away with it"? Can you imagine any organisation of hundreds/thousands of people organising something like that with no word getting out? Remember these are people at the top, not super intelligent evil robots.

And yes, a lot of things are strange and are counter-intuitive, such as dodgy looking moon landing photos. But at the end of the day, think about what's more likely and what has more evidence to back it up, and, importantly, realise that you don't know everything about circumstances (how the hell do you know how moon dust/gravity/etc. influences photographs?). I used to be in the exact same shoes as you and believe in faked moon landings, aliens, etc. etc. but after years and years of absolutely nothing turning up and more debunking going on than proof, chances are these things are just the usual nonsense that crackpots have been going on about since culture began, and scaremongering.

So basically, stop looking for ghosts until one hits you in the face and you can do something yourself to prove it!

agnostic... i confuse myself, what difference is it if i have company?

The public started to question the war in Iraq and the so-called weapons of mass destruction so they go ahead and try to plant them themselves, their plan obvioulsy was foiled.

There whole agenda is full of flaws and they know it. They weave in and out of their lies to try and avoid attention. Mainstream media makes sure the public are about as ill-informed as it gets, and believe, as I've seen today, it works.

The globalists know people are eventually going to wake up and be outraged at their blatant attrocities. For this reason they made sure that we live in a time of 'terror threats' and such which make way for a global police state, and that anyone who opposes must surely be a terrorist and a threat to national security. I mean this is stated in the Patriot Acts I & II and Homeland Security, 'any act of misdemenour that endangers lives' is an act of terrorism. And now they are saying these 'terror' crimes need life imprisonment. This is admitted! They are saying that, this is also in the proposals, that 'any one who criticises government policy should be charged as a terrorist for being a potential threat to homeland security'. Whistleblowers are being sent to prison or executed for uncovering corruption. You can be quote 'secretly arrested, secretly tortured, secretly executed if you endanger Homeland Security. Even the word 'Homeland' is synonymous with Nazi Germany.They also have 'compact camps' to send you to if you disagree with the governments policy. Neo cons all over will agree with this proposal, it's ridiculous.

Now they're going round harassing members of public threatening to arrest them under homeland security legislation. The thugs in police attire are going round tasering people, folks have died, they tasered a guy in a wheelchair who 'needed to be detained', they have tasered children as young as 6, cs-gas sprayed young babies! This is in the mainstream news. This is terrible.

You may sit there and go 'oh well, doesnt bother me, I've got nothing to hide, I'm not a terrorist, I agree with what they're doing if it means we're going to be safe', but in a few years time your human rights will be taken away, your freedom as a citizen completely abolished, your activities monitered daily, your DNA on a national database etc. This is not a war on terror, this is a war on our freedom and civil liberties. You need to wake up and stop ignoring these issues and get yourself free from this paradigm. This is important stuff that may benefit the lives of your families and friends and generations in the future.

Anyway.

"Mass murderers agree; Gun control works."

Jahzel, delusional just does't seem strong enough a word.

Yeah, and Valve leaked HL2 on purpose to increase sales and take over the universe!!!!!111 ONE ONE ONE OEN EON EOI I KNOW ALL ABOUT IT