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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Jan 7th at 6:09am 2005


i took basic classes on booby traps, so my knowledge of chemicals is limited at best. but i can sure hurt someone with crafty ease if i need to

my specialty was demolitions at one time. but the demolitions was of the pre-made type. C-4, shape charges, det cord, TNT, and of course, mines.

at one time i could calculate the force needed to blow any material type to the desired pieces. it takes a bit of skill to use enough explosives, to little and you have to deal with an unstable structure, to much and it goes places you may not want it to.

my primary specialty was tank destroyer.. my secondary was bridge demolitions, but i could blow trees and other wooden objects as well.

needless to say, i had a blast

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Posted by Nickelplate on Fri Jan 7th at 6:12am 2005


? quoting Gwil
Numerous things Tracer Bullet - but it's not entirely make believe for a criminal these days (lets say, a man who stabbed a pensioner on the street for her bag, as an example) to argue that according to his human rights - he shouldn't be locked in a cell, should be able to travel away after being released from questioning etc etc.

Perhaps not as serious as that, but now it seems the EU has transformed us into something that mirrors the lawsuit culture of America (this isnt meant as a jibe btw anyone ) - but with human rights being the stop gap for people to sue the police for giving them bruising from handcuffs.

The worst thing being, they can actually win these cases as well. Extreme liberalism and imposed bureacracy are causing situations like this to arise far too often...

Gwil, I agree completely, I HATE the "lawsuit culture" of america, and I am strating to dislike LOTS of things about america.

? quoting Orpheus
the only thing faster than light, is dark.

when you think about it, dark always arrives first, since its always there before the light arrives.

paradoxically, people think dark is the absence of light, but who's to say that if we were created to see in the dark, then light would be just as invisible to our sight.

i have always wondered, why is there so much more dark, if it is indeed nothing important.

What if We are just like the tree that falls in the forest for no one to hear? What if people are are just like waves of compressed air like sond and we don't even exist until someone else percieves us.

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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Jan 7th at 6:17am 2005


? quoting Nickelplate

What if We are just like the tree that falls in the forest for no one to hear?

i remember a famous saying from "revenge of the nerds"

"What if D-O-G really spells cat?"

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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Fri Jan 7th at 6:23am 2005


? quoting Nickelplate
? quoting Gwil
Numerous things Tracer Bullet - but it's not entirely make believe for a criminal these days (lets say, a man who stabbed a pensioner on the street for her bag, as an example) to argue that according to his human rights - he shouldn't be locked in a cell, should be able to travel away after being released from questioning etc etc.

Perhaps not as serious as that, but now it seems the EU has transformed us into something that mirrors the lawsuit culture of America (this isnt meant as a jibe btw anyone ) - but with human rights being the stop gap for people to sue the police for giving them bruising from handcuffs.

The worst thing being, they can actually win these cases as well. Extreme liberalism and imposed bureacracy are causing situations like this to arise far too often...

Gwil, I agree completely, I HATE the "lawsuit culture" of america, and I am strating to dislike LOTS of things about america.

I hadn't realized that there were fewer lawsuits in Europe (until now?). It is a pain.

-Orph- On reason I've never made any explosives is I wouldn't know what to do with them. I could calculate the energy released, maybe even approximate the time span of the detonation, but it wouldn't give me any conception of how destructive any given amount of material is likely to be. I envy your experience. A class in booby traps? *drools*

Now that I think about it, I might be able to figure out how much explosive you need to create a shock wave... Or do high explosives always do that? *wonders off thinking*

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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Fri Jan 7th at 6:26am 2005


? quoting Nickelplate

? quoting Orpheus
the only thing faster than light, is dark.

when you think about it, dark always arrives first, since its always there before the light arrives.

paradoxically, people think dark is the absence of light, but who's to say that if we were created to see in the dark, then light would be just as invisible to our sight.

i have always wondered, why is there so much more dark, if it is indeed nothing important.

What if We are just like the tree that falls in the forest for no one to hear? What if people are are just like waves of compressed air like sond and we don't even exist until someone else percieves us.

I don't mean to rain on anybody's parade (or do I?), but quantum mechanics does not apply to macroscopic objects.

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Posted by pepper on Fri Jan 7th at 9:21am 2005


everything you know is wrong.
about space then, we know so little about it. we can only see 10% and do not even know how many of the things work.
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Posted by Andrei on Fri Jan 7th at 12:05pm 2005


About this thread's title: I was talking to a(n orthodox) priest a few days ago, and he said that those poor people deserved what had happened to them because they are, well...sinners. Such is the mentality of the Orthodox Church.

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Posted by Jahzel on Fri Jan 7th at 12:52pm 2005


? quoting pepper
everything you know is wrong.
about space then, we know so little about it. we can only see 10% and do not even know how many of the things work.

That's so true. You know the 10% matter we can see we can so only because light reflects off it. The remaining 80% is unobservable dark matter which light cannot reflect off. This means there are galaxies and star systems we cant even see with the human eye. When people think 'it doesn?t exist because I haven?t seen it', it might exist because you cant see it.>>

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Posted by pepper on Fri Jan 7th at 1:11pm 2005


well, thats one thing we can agree about!
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Posted by Jahzel on Fri Jan 7th at 1:18pm 2005


True

Giuliana Conforto: Man's Cosmic Game

That's a book that talks about this subject in depth, recommended.

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Posted by fishy on Fri Jan 7th at 1:37pm 2005


yup, i've never seen the dark side of the moon, but i'm still open to the possibility of it's existance.

i had fun in my schooldays with weedkiller and sugar. some very louds bangs from it if it was in the right sort of container. lots and lots of white smoke and a big orange glow/flame if it wasn't.

the loudest bang i've ever heard in my life happened about a second after i done the stupedist thing in my life. kicking, what was in effect, a live pipebomb. as soon as i kicked it, it felt like i awoke from a weedkiller induced stupor, and realised my mistake. as turned away from it, it exploded, forcing me to take a couple of steps forward. i remember standing there thinking that people get their legs bitten off by sharks without feeling it, and it was only a matter of time before i realised what bits of me were missing. i'm still amazed that i was completely untouched. there was a two foot diameter crater in the soil, that went down to and old cobbled path about eight inches below the surface, mud all over a big wall that was nearby, and bits of red/white hot metal still hissing as they landed in the canal.

i think i owe my guardian angel a beer for standing behind me that day, i really do.

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Posted by Andrei on Fri Jan 7th at 1:57pm 2005


I used to make my own gunpowder. Bought saltpeter ( potassium nitrate ) from a drugstore, made the carbon myself and borrowed some sulphur from the chemistry lab. Mixed it with caution, keeping some of the raw materials wet, in the appropriate proportions and made myself some nice bombs. Loud bang, large flame, dense black smoke and lots of heat. Should switch to willow wood when making the carbon, though...

As for the weedkiller and sugar explosive, i've never made such a thing. What type of weedkiller did you use and how did you mix it?

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Posted by fishy on Fri Jan 7th at 3:12pm 2005


? quoting Andrei
As for the weedkiller and sugar explosive, i've never made such a thing. What type of weedkiller did you use and how did you mix it?

i really don't think i should be answering that on a public forum, especially not in a thread that already has enough 'keywords' to have the men in black erase us all from history. (see Jahzels posts )

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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Jan 7th at 4:14pm 2005


? quoting fishy

i really don't think i should be answering that on a public forum, especially not in a thread that already has enough 'keywords' to have the men in black erase us all from history. (see Jahzels posts )

mine is a matter of public record, but i was thinking the same thing. since 911, its not been a good idea to discuss this stuff. at least no one said the word president and bomb in the same sentanc*knock at front door*

hold on a sec, i gotta get that.

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Posted by Andrei on Fri Jan 7th at 4:27pm 2005


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Posted by Gwil on Fri Jan 7th at 4:29pm 2005


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I used to make my own gunpowder. Bought saltpeter ( potassium nitrate ) from a drugstore, made the carbon myself and borrowed some sulphur from the chemistry lab. Mixed it with caution, keeping some of the raw materials wet, in the appropriate proportions and made myself some nice bombs. Loud bang, large flame, dense black smoke and lots of heat. Should switch to willow wood when making the carbon, though...

As for the weedkiller and sugar explosive, i've never made such a thing. What type of weedkiller did you use and how did you mix it?



It's easier to make dynamite! Or napalm! Gunpowder is for show, real explosives are for proper fun!


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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Jan 7th at 4:30pm 2005


? quoting Andrei
President president bomb bomb peanuts.

doesn't count, men in back don't come to homes without front doors..you do live in a grass hut, right?

damn, i always get these third world countries mixed up.

/runs

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Posted by Leperous on Fri Jan 7th at 4:44pm 2005


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the only thing faster than light, is dark.

"Dark" is an absence of light, so if you think about nothing is actually travelling anywhere at any speed According to the late Douglas Adams, the only thing which travels faster than the light is bad news, which you can't use for propulsion as no-one will appreciate you arriving

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That's so true. You know the 10% matter we can see we can so only because light reflects off it. The remaining 80% is unobservable dark matter which light cannot reflect off. This means there are galaxies and star systems we cant even see with the human eye. When people think 'it doesn?t exist because I haven?t seen it', it might exist because you cant see it.

First of all, 10 + 80 = 90 Secondly, if it does exist then it's certainly won't form galaxies or stars as we know them. Thirdly, you don't say "it doesn't reflect light", but "it doesn't interact with light" as it doesn't seem to give off any radiation itself. The main way in which we know its there is because it has mass; of course, whatever else it interacts with depends on what it actually is (e.g. neutrinos- main WIMP candidate- interact via the weak nuclear and gravitational forces only, the former of which operates only on subatomic scales) so potentially we will never know until we go find some of the stuff!

? quoting Andrei
About this thread's title: I was talking to a(n orthodox) priest a few days ago, and he said that those poor people deserved what had happened to them because they are, well...sinners. Such is the mentality of the Orthodox Church.

Orthodox or not, they are still Christians, yes? If you meet this chap again tell him about all the christians who would have been washed away, along with all the other people who have never heard about Jesus. Either he has little understanding of his own religion or his god is some bitter little man :/





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Posted by Andrei on Fri Jan 7th at 4:50pm 2005


? quoting Gwil

It's easier to make dynamite! Or napalm! Gunpowder is for show, real explosives are for proper fun!


Erm...I really am fond of being alive. Still, making dynamite sounds good .

? posted by Orpheus

damn, i always get these third world countries mixed up.

Oh, i will get back on you for that .

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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Jan 7th at 4:51pm 2005


? quoting Leperous

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the only thing faster than light, is dark.

"Dark" is an absence of light, so if you think about nothing is actually travelling anywhere at any speed

go ahead, make fun.. i bet fundamentally i am correct.. they laughed at the guy who said he would invent a portaloo with water in the bottom. i bet he is rich now

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