Religion & Tsunamis
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Re: Religion & Tsunamis
Posted by Tracer Bullet on Fri Jan 7th at 5:06pm 2005


Making TNT, while easy, is highly inadvisable. The stuff is acutely toxic, not merely explosive! Besides, you need concentrated nitric and sulfuric acid, which isn't exactly available at your local hardware store.

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Re: Religion & Tsunamis
Posted by Monqui on Fri Jan 7th at 5:06pm 2005


Orph-

Hmm... Not sure if that was sarcasm or not... But meh, here's this-

Dark, as TB and Lep said, isn't a thing, it's more of a state of how much light is available. So, Dark and Light are not antonyms, but Dark and Bright would be. They are just different levels of "light." Bright is the presence of lots of percieveable light, and dark is the absence of it. [addsig]




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Re: Religion & Tsunamis
Posted by Orpheus on Fri Jan 7th at 5:14pm 2005


? quoting Monqui
Orph-

Hmm... Not sure if that was sarcasm or not... But meh, here's this-

Dark, as TB and Lep said, isn't a thing, it's more of a state of how much light is available. So, Dark and Light are not antonyms, but Dark and Bright would be. They are just different levels of "light." Bright is the presence of lots of percieveable light, and dark is the absence of it.

look, this is one of those cases where i have not the correct terminologies to say what i am thinking.

lets assume for the moment, that i realize the term "light" means energy, and "dark" means lack of energy. this i know. what i am saying is, there is a substance we cannot see, or yet detect that is dark and either as fast as light, or faster, cause the light energy, must push it out of the way to gain access to its location.

forget for a moment, that we are discussing dark=no energy, and substitute dark=unknown substance with no discernible measurements.

i am not arguing that the lack of energy is one of the definitions of dark, i am postulating that the word dark can have more definitions besides.

*sighs*

i wish i had enough schooling to make that more intelligible.

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Re: Religion & Tsunamis
Posted by Andrei on Fri Jan 7th at 5:24pm 2005


Dark is light with rendercolor set to 0 0 0. [addsig]



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Re: Religion & Tsunamis
Posted by Tracer Bullet on Fri Jan 7th at 5:36pm 2005


I understand what you mean Orph, it's just that there isn't much point in discussing it from a scientific perspective if it isn't detectable. You are postulating something like a fluid through which light has to push aside as it moves, right?

In order for this postulated "dark" to exist, it also must offer no Resistance to the movement of light, otherwise there would be energy loss in photon transmission through free-space, which is not the case. So either light does not interact with "dark", or they are connected in some way that causes them to move at the same speed and not impede each other. We can also postulate that "dark" has no mass, charge, or spin as other particles do, because otherwise we could detect it. What does that leave us with? It can't be matter or energy as we know them. Even the unfortunately named "dark matter" or "dark energy" could not account for it because both of these are detectable. Basically, unless you can come up with a mathematical theory the predicts the existence of "dark" you are left with precisely "nothing", which of course is what I believe it to be.

Oh, and for all of you babbling about the 90% of the universe we can't see: Just remember that current physical theory describes the 10% we CAN see to near perfection. It would be a grave mistake to think we know everything, but the unknown does not invalidate the known. Classical Mechanics is still entirely applicable to the macroscopic world. It was not invalidated for the framework in which it was developed just because Quantum Mechanics has supplanted it in the nanoscopic world of atoms. I believe we will see a similar transformation as new theories are developed. Relativity and the Standard Model will always be with us. They do not describe everything, but they describe most of what we know about for the present.

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Re: Religion & Tsunamis
Posted by Orpheus on Fri Jan 7th at 5:55pm 2005


like i said, if dark was indeed "nothing", why would there be so much of it?

nothing meaning,the absence of something.

anyways, thanx TB.. i think you come closest to understanding how my train of thought is.

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Re: Religion & Tsunamis
Posted by Tracer Bullet on Fri Jan 7th at 6:00pm 2005


I suppose it isn't "nothing" precisely. Everything exists within space-time. There are also postulated "virtual" particles everywhere that spontaneously form and obliterate themselves on minuscule timescales. However, we are treading well beyond the extent of my knowledge at this point. I don't really go in for cosmology that much. [addsig]



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Re: Religion & Tsunamis
Posted by Nickelplate on Fri Jan 7th at 6:42pm 2005


Well, I'm a cosmetology major at my college, and we didn't learn ANYTHING about any particles besides thos in the new AVOn collaged cream (removes wrinkles!!)

I'm joking. Psych major.

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