this is not a bitch, just a reply to a question, try to read it all before you decide how to comment.

i see it like this, forget for moment that they are screenshots, but just another method of showing of ones wares.

lets assume this is just a continuation of the mapping process. an author comes to us and asked, "what can i do to improve this work?" the few of us whom even try to answer will point out this or that to do what the person asked.

lets assume the author did everything and the map still didn't do what it was designed to do. someone may say "i heard of these new tools that could cut your R's by 20 percent" the guy is more than likely going to go get said tools.

now, what if no one mentioned the tools, whom would be the worse? the mapper or the people keeping the secret?

mapping and mapping forums are processes that work two ways, the person coming asking for advice, and the persons giving it. if any person expects to be given good advice, they must first teat people with the respect the request deserves.

it is not a good idea to be rude, insensitive or even arrogant when making a request of people in regards to asking favors.

everyone wants to think of this as only images and file sizes, but its more that that because its a direct reflection upon the person whom they belong to.

now back to the file sizes. if the tools or application did not exist to control the output, and make them in such a way as to be acceptable, then one would next ask for people to upload less images to cut down on the file sizes.

you will notice, no one ever asks why someone posted to many screens.

you know whats the very worse thing about all this? that some even has to ask. it should be a perfectly acceptable request "he buddy, can you reduce those by 50%?" the fact that i have to bother reminding folks how rude it is is the worse part of this whole discussion. the fact that it has been turned into something worse than it began.. well its hard to put into words actually.

bottomline, no one should be expected to tolerate something thats as easy as this is to avoid.

when you think about it. why has it? we are not just a group of people with broadband, we are a community that should work together as a whole. it should not be turned into a few policing a few people should have enough to police themselves.

anyways, it is entirely possible to create screenshots well below the ones some use. its not as if this is an epidemic, its isolated individuals.. believe it or not, most say "oops" and fix the error.

one thing you must consider, there are a few vocal members here, but there is also a silent vast majority. just because they are not talking, doesn't mean they are not thinking "what an ass, look at these huge screens"

anywho's, think on this, why does it have to be a battle, when its so easy to use the tools we have?

/ 2 cents

you know what..? you're all right, if no one but me wants to complain. then why am i, i have more broadband width than most. if i cannot get any help, then let the silent ones do it or deal.

i will be making notes of the people posing oversized screens. no one says i must be kind to them. i will give them exactly as much respect as they give us first. :/

enough about screen sizes for one year.

you silent ones, tough.

the whole screenshot thing is something that could have been resolved a long time ago, when it was suggested that any pics posted above a certain filesize should be replaced with a standard forum image that requests the uploader to reduce his original filesize. maybe Lep decided it wasn't important enough an issue to be alienating potentially good forum members over, which, Orph, is what your 'passion' for the subject often does. i agree that people posting pics and asking for help will get on a lot better if they do so courteously. i also believe that people posting answers or requests to alter pic sizes should do so in the same manner.

over the past couple of years, however, your attemps at communicating you desire for people to post smaller filesizes has deteriorated into what looks like aggresive trolling. i don't believe that you intend it this way, but seriously, that's the way it comes across. letting the people that this directly effects complain about it first, and then copy/pasting one of your older posts that actually explain the benefits of file compession in a more decorous manner, would, in my opinion, cause a lot less friction, as there would at least be a tangible reason for the subject to have been raised in the first place.

i remember seeing a pic that said something like 'no bmp foo' [reminiscent of monqui's 'I R MORON' masterpiece], that was intended to replace any .bmp's that were posted. did it ever get used?

speaking of pics, i was searching for bridge pics, and came up with this. a brilliant example of how a cantilever brige works, whether your an engineer or not.