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Posted by OtZman on Thu Jan 13th at 11:21pm 2005

Yesterday I autoupdated Windows. Soon after that my firewall, Zone Alarm, gave me 100% CPU usage, then my computer hang. I restarted and the same happend again, right after logging in, Zone Alarm used up all my CPU power. After a few attempts I managed to uninstall Zone Alarm. This seemed to fix the problem. I then reinstalled the firewall, just to see how my CPU usage bumped up to 100%, crashing my PC again. Filled with wrath I uninstalled Zone Alarm and installed Sygate's free firewall instead. Everything seemed to work fine. I shut down the computer and happily went to bed.

Then, after I started my computer today and logged in, a bluescreen appeared and my computer restarted. The same thing happens every time I restart and log in.

I've started Windows in Failsafe mode and searched my computer with Ad-Aware, Nod32, checked the registry using Registry Mechanic and removed the Sygate firewall. I've also disabled all autostarting programs. Still, when starting Windows normally, this bluescreen appears and my computer restarts. I haven't installed any new hardware or any new software besides the Windows updates and the Sygate firewall.

Does anyone have a clue what might be causing this problem and how I could fix it? As a last solution I guess I'll have to reinstall Windows.

Thanks in advance.
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Posted by parakeet on Fri Jan 14th at 12:01am 2005

check computer temperature STAT just in case. Check overclocking, & uninstall drivers.

make sure no wires are obstructing the fan Especially if you have a tiny box like mine. I had this trouble when i changed over boxes but the beautiful blue ambience & the fact that it fits meh new video card makes it well worth it , Definintly looks awesome box name = ARIA , Very easy part shifting , Very nice product . Pricewise dunno i got it for christmas so.. DONT TELL MEH !
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Posted by xconspirisist on Fri Jan 14th at 12:12am 2005

arg crap. I know this one.

Might take quite a lot of intuitive clicking, but try the following;

my computer - right click
propertys
advanced tab
error reporing
'when a critical error accours' frame
disable rebooting

Now check your syslogs, for anything out of the ordinary.
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Posted by Crono on Fri Jan 14th at 3:33am 2005

What exactly is the error message on the blue screen, since there are many.

Also, the only time I got this type of behavior was when the user profile got all screwy. However, that didn't allow me to boot in ANY form.
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Posted by Foxpup on Fri Jan 14th at 3:37am 2005

Windows (and all Microsoft products in general) gets more useless with every release. [addsig]



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Posted by Monqui on Fri Jan 14th at 3:37am 2005

You said you recently upgraded Windows? If you just updated to SP2, try removing it. I know we had a few computers where I work that ceased to load Windows when SP2 was installed.

To get rid of it, just go into the Add-Remove programs dialogue in safe mode, and it should be listed towards the bottom. [addsig]



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Posted by Gorbachev on Fri Jan 14th at 7:21am 2005

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Windows (and all Microsoft products in general) gets more useless with every release.


Riiight.
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Posted by OtZman on Fri Jan 14th at 3:33pm 2005

Here's the bluescreen message:

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A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps:

Check to be sure you have adequate disk space. If a driver is identified in the Stop message, disable the driver or check with the manufacturer for driver updates. Try changing video adapters.

Check with your hardware vendor for any BIOS updates. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need touse Safe Mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then select Safe Mode.

Technical information:

****STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x8062BFB7, 0xF5EE699C, 0x00000000)

Beginning dump of physical memory
Physical memory dump complete.
Contact your system administratorof technical support group for further assistance.

Edit:

Nothing's covering the fans. I've checked the SATA cables. I had SP2 included in the OS when I installed so the update must've been something else. And, tbh, I don't know where/how to check the syslogs .

Later today I'll get my new graphics card, so perhaps I'll just backup all important data and reinstall Windows.

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Posted by habboi on Fri Jan 14th at 4:19pm 2005

It might have something to do with the drivers or perhaps a hardware damaged?

My friends computer broke because of too much dust on the tower!

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Posted by OtZman on Fri Jan 14th at 6:15pm 2005

I wonder if it could be something like that. The bluescreen won't appear when in Safe Mode or before I've logged in during normal mode. And it all happend over night while the computer was turned off .
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Posted by OtZman on Sat Jan 15th at 4:14am 2005

Now I've reinstalled Windows. Thanks for your help guys.

I've learnt my lesson and will never again update windows.
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Posted by Loco on Sat Jan 15th at 8:01am 2005

I got the same error message when playing HL2. Only sorted it out by adding certain parameters though, so I'm not sure how you'd fix it. Windows updates are often pretty necessary if you don't want to be hacked, and it's unusual that Microsoft would release a patch which crashed the PC...
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Posted by Crono on Sat Jan 15th at 8:13am 2005

...*cough*bulls**t*cough*...
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Posted by Gorbachev on Sat Jan 15th at 8:52am 2005

I've only had this problem when my hard-drive died about a week later.
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Posted by OtZman on Sat Jan 15th at 9:17am 2005

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I got the same error message when playing HL2. Only sorted it out by adding certain parameters though, so I'm not sure how you'd fix it. Windows updates are often pretty necessary if you don't want to be hacked, and it's unusual that Microsoft would release a patch which crashed the PC...


I'd rather reinstall windows because of hackers/viruses/other evil than because of a windows update
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Posted by Gorbachev on Sat Jan 15th at 9:18am 2005

Just do what admins do, either test on a safe bench before implementing, or back everything up and do a clean install of everything with the updates before you start putting stuff back on.
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Posted by OtZman on Sat Jan 15th at 9:25am 2005

I have windows on a separate partition so I lost nothing. Just that it took some time to reinstall programs ect.
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Posted by m0p on Sat Jan 15th at 10:07pm 2005

Pff, Micro$oft. They are in my opinion, the lamest excuse for a programming team ever. The only bug-free product they have released is... wait, there isn't one! All WinNT systems have a really buggy bootstrap code which is the source of their dual-booting annoyances. They cut corners and have made a mess of system files. Even with a clean install, the WinNT/Windows folder is really messy, even more than the Win9x based OS's.

/me hates Micro$oft

End of Microsoft bashing.




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Posted by Crono on Sat Jan 15th at 11:16pm 2005

There's no such thing as a bug free program ... anywhere. Not just Microsoft.
The determinite factor of, "Good program" comes from it's reliability and the frequency of the bugs in question ...
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Posted by xconspirisist on Sun Jan 16th at 12:13am 2005

Arg, I'm going out on a limb here, but it has to be said, not aiming this at anyone in particular either;

Please, dont bitch about windows, or microsoft; 98% of people on here are using it and you proberbly are too. Just saying 'windows is crap lol' is so utterly agrivating, knowing that you proberbly couldent even install another oppoerating system, ie; linux, without asking bitching and moaning about that either. Windows very rarly just stops working, and almost ALL the time, it is because of some freeking user pissing about with settings, or modifying things that they dont know how to control. And for gods sake, would you guys PLEASE stop formatting your hard drives every other damned month when a problem arises. FIX THE PROBLEM. It's like getting a puncture, then crushing your bike to get rid of the puncture. My windows xp install has been going for nigh on 3 years, I've not formated it once because of a problem and god knows I fiddle with more things than the average user.

/2 pence. That felt good.







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