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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by Dark|Killer on Fri Jan 14th at 6:32pm 2005


Hey guyz, i have Radeon 9700 pro...and im planning to get a new GFX card...can someone tell me which one is better to buy ( for games) ... Radeon X800 or Radeon X850???...i heard the there is XT or PRO, i actually no nothing in difference between them, but i hope some of you guyz can know...please tell me which is better to buy, i dont care of it costs alot, i care for the best...

Thanks all...

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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by Myrk- on Fri Jan 14th at 6:40pm 2005


Ok basically just get a Radeon 9600 or 9800 XT. They are good cards (better than the pro) and are about the same price as the pro. They are also the later models so any version of it you get will be fine for the next year or 2.

As well as this I believe you get a free copy of HL2! LOL! You have to pay for the shipping of it and it takes 28 days to arrive, but you can get a free copy!

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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by Dark|Killer on Fri Jan 14th at 7:08pm 2005


Thanks for your reply, but what about radeon X800 or X850 ???? arent they the latest??

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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by Myrk- on Fri Jan 14th at 7:35pm 2005


X800 and X850? What are they? I though by X you meant 6 or 9 or 8 series... [addsig]



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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by SaintGreg on Fri Jan 14th at 7:54pm 2005


I thought that they were basically the same card with different cooling mechanisms. If it were me I'd go for whichever is cheaper.




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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by omegaslayer on Fri Jan 14th at 7:58pm 2005


X850 is only slightly more powerful then the X800, honestly if your going to spend that much money, then spend it on the newest Nvidia card (no ATI vs Nvidia thread plz) 6800 GT (I think thats what it is), because honestly, this card runs all games better than the ATI's X800 cards. Just read about it on any site that bench marks these cards, and you'll see that Nvidia came out on top!

Edit: BTW this is comming from someone who HAS the X800 XT PE

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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by $loth on Fri Jan 14th at 9:48pm 2005


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X800 and X850? What are they? I though by X you meant 6 or 9 or 8 series...


X is the new series, higher than the 9800's. What I've heard about the x850 is that there is a small power boost above the x800's. So if it's going to cost more than say ?20-?30 extra then there might be little point depending on your view.

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honestly if your going to spend that much money, then spend it on the newest Nvidia card (no ATI vs Nvidia thread plz) 6800 GT


As much as I say that I am not a fan of Nvidia, I've gotta admit that thier 6800 series is very good. I've heard lots of good comments on the overclockability, I looked in a magazine today which had an article on the FPS of nvidia v ati GFX cards, the lower-mid range ATI's beat the Nvidia's by quite a bit, but the 6800's were around the same as the x800's.
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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by Andrei on Fri Jan 14th at 10:14pm 2005


No matter how good their products are, Nvidia's customer support will always be a big no-no. [addsig]



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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by omegaslayer on Fri Jan 14th at 10:56pm 2005


Me being a ATI person, I hate to admit that Nvidia is better, but their 6800 GT is slightly more powerful than the x800 XT, the x850 is ATI's solution to getting better frames than the 6800 GT. Right now we are in between generartions of graphics cards on both sides. Soon someone will release the next big step.

If you are willing to drop 500$ for a new gfx card, wait till the next gen cards are released, then you will be on top the next round, instead of "being behind".

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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by scary_jeff on Fri Jan 14th at 10:58pm 2005


It's best to do some individual research before asking in forums whose members will ususally just suggest you buy the thing they have. www.anandtech.com is a good place to start. Search on google for x850 review.

it's X because it used to be the 9xxx series, and X comes after nine




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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by SuperCobra on Fri Jan 14th at 11:32pm 2005


X850 nice card believe me
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Posted by Dark|Killer on Sat Jan 15th at 11:21am 2005


? quoting omegaslayer
Me being a ATI person, I hate to admit that Nvidia is better, but their 6800 GT is slightly more powerful than the x800 XT, the x850 is ATI's solution to getting better frames than the 6800 GT. Right now we are in between generartions of graphics cards on both sides. Soon someone will release the next big step.

If you are willing to drop 500$ for a new gfx card, wait till the next gen cards are released, then you will be on top the next round, instead of "being behind".

Its ok, ill buy anything lol, but if you say the Nvidia is better than X800, is better than X850 too???!?

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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by Dark|Killer on Sat Jan 15th at 11:22am 2005


? quoting SuperCobra
X850 nice card believe me

Do you have it!??, if you do please tell me what does it improve in gaming...

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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by gimpinthesink on Sat Jan 15th at 11:51am 2005


you should get the 6800 GT SLI well that is if you want 2 gfx cards and to fork out on a new motherboard. [addsig]



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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by m0p on Sat Jan 15th at 10:01pm 2005


Thr 9600 XT is not better than a 9800 Pro! The 9800 Pro 256bit is the same as an underclocked XT, and a 128 is a 9800 XT with lower clocks and a slower memory bus. The X850 is a marketing scam! You'd be better off getting a X800 Pro ViVo and modding the BIOS to an XT, it's very simple. There are 100s of guides on the net about it.




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Posted by omegaslayer on Sat Jan 15th at 10:14pm 2005


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? quoting omegaslayer
Me being a ATI person, I hate to admit that Nvidia is better, but their 6800 GT is slightly more powerful than the x800 XT, the x850 is ATI's solution to getting better frames than the 6800 GT. Right now we are in between generartions of graphics cards on both sides. Soon someone will release the next big step.

If you are willing to drop 500$ for a new gfx card, wait till the next gen cards are released, then you will be on top the next round, instead of "being behind".

Its ok, ill buy anything lol, but if you say the Nvidia is better than X800, is better than X850 too???!?



I wouldnt say its better, just it wont over heat as much a ATI's card (because the 6800 GT takes up the PCI slot underneth for its massive fan/heatsink). You have to ask your self, who do you want to provide you your graphics? ATI which has great/constant software updates, or Nvidia who has been around longer than AIT and knows what they are doing.
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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by Dark|Killer on Sun Jan 16th at 8:15am 2005


? quoting m0p
Thr 9600 XT is not better than a 9800 Pro! The 9800 Pro 256bit is the same as an underclocked XT, and a 128 is a 9800 XT with lower clocks and a slower memory bus. The X850 is a marketing scam! You'd be better off getting a X800 Pro ViVo and modding the BIOS to an XT, it's very simple. There are 100s of guides on the net about it.

So you suggest to me to buy Radeon X800 pro ?!

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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by m0p on Sun Jan 16th at 8:29am 2005


That would be my choice if I were you, but you could always find a cheap 9800 Pro.




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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by Dark|Killer on Sun Jan 16th at 8:35am 2005


Man, its not about the money, im searching for a good GFX card, in ATI actually, i really like ATI most, so Radeon X800 pro??? or Radeon X850 Pro ?!?! [addsig]



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Re: Radeon X800Radeon X850
Posted by m0p on Sun Jan 16th at 8:55am 2005


Hmm, the X850 is PCI-E right? And you probably have an AGP mobo, so the current most powerful AGP card is either an X800 XT PE or a 6800 Ultra, unless you count those $1000 3dlabs cards heh. You could as I have said, get a X800 Pro ViVo and mod it to an XT PE, but the mod isn't always successful and when it fails your card is ruined. So... you should find an XT PE somewhere, they are hard to come by, so if you cant find one, get a regular XT (lower clocks) which are easier to find, or, failing that, an X800 Pro or X800 Pro ViVo.





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