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Posted by Fluke on Mon Jan 24th at 3:03pm 2005


There are new mappers to Hammer etc. Perhaps we can learn amongst each other and get in contact with each other via MSN or some IRC channel such that we can help each other on our maps? Just a suggestion. Perhaps if we have a rather large scale group there will be enough expertise and we can all learn together and teach others. I was just thinking it would be cool to be part of a group of mappers rather than hunting the net for answers and waiting on posts... Just an idea..





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Posted by fraggard on Mon Jan 24th at 3:06pm 2005

Join #snarkpit on irc.quakenet.org.




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Posted by DocBadwrench on Mon Jan 24th at 8:15pm 2005

That's an interesting idea. I had actually considered expanding my rented Ventrilo server a bit and creating a room that people here would be welcome to use if you wanted to talk 1-on-1 or with a group about issues. Any interest here?




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Posted by DrGlass on Mon Jan 24th at 8:56pm 2005

I cant tell you how hard it is for me to explane to people how to work with hammer over MSN or AIM. There is so much information that a new mapper needs before he even places his first brush.

It took me years of on and off mapping to come up with a finished map. I am still finding out things to help me map (like shift-drag-copy).

I think new mappers need to take the first step and find out on their own the basics of mapping. I'm writing a four part tutorial on just that, and my first section is almost a 5 page outline of all the diffrent options and tools.

The best thing for newbies to do is learn good habits (clipping over carving, VIS blocking, etc)
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Posted by Joe-Bob on Mon Jan 24th at 10:11pm 2005

The version of Worldcraft that came on the Half-Life GotY disc had the best newbie tutorial I have ever seen.

Does anyone have a copy of that? It would sure be useful to new mappers.




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Posted by xconspirisist on Mon Jan 24th at 10:18pm 2005

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Perhaps we can learn amongst each other and get in contact with each other


That is the entire point of this site, fewl.




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Posted by DocBadwrench on Mon Jan 24th at 10:51pm 2005

I think what Fluke is asking for is the more "hands-on, follow-along" approach. This site is invaluable, to be sure. I've already guided one of my buddies through the basics of hammer using Ventrilo. It's tricky, but helpful once you know where the tools are. Before that, though, it's essential to go through a few of the tutorials that are linked directly to the Help tab in Hammer. I found those quite good as a starting off point.




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Posted by DrGlass on Mon Jan 24th at 11:23pm 2005

I think people need the right additute to get started. I've worked with people that just cant seem to do anything on their own, then I've seen some people pick hammer up for the first time and can make a decent map in a few days becuase they worked hard to figure things out on their own. Now I'm not saying we should through the newbies to the wolf all alone, but a group 'class' could be tough with the diffrent learning styles and additudes of people.
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Posted by Myrk- on Mon Jan 24th at 11:41pm 2005

Please, such an undercover group exists... the snark combine

HAIL SNARK COMBINE!

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Posted by Mouse on Mon Jan 24th at 11:49pm 2005

There's the VERC forum for mapping, the "discussion" option in the SDK window leads you right to it. From there you can also join a mailing list discussion.




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Posted by G.Ballblue on Tue Jan 25th at 2:03am 2005

? quoting Myrk-
Please, such an undercover group exists... the snark combine

HAIL SNARK COMBINE!

lmaocakes

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Posted by Cash Car Star on Tue Jan 25th at 8:14am 2005

It's been my observation that most attracted to mapping don't enjoy working in a structured hierarchy. The current existance of loose communities (and no, I don't mean like a hippie farm where they have pot luck and orgy dinners every Thursday), like Snarkpit, Mapcore or Countermap, allows for a dynamic exchange of knowledge, techniques and skill. The infobase for HL2 editing is still being tutorialized; if your interests are in helping others, I'd recommend directing your energies towards the creation of that infrastructure.



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Posted by Dark|Killer on Tue Jan 25th at 8:18am 2005

? quoting Myrk-
Please, such an undercover group exists... the snark combine

HAIL SNARK COMBINE!

Wow amazing, did you do that myrk??

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Posted by Myrk- on Tue Jan 25th at 11:52am 2005

Yus... and it actually exists, though we are all lazy so nothing happens. [addsig]



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Posted by Leperous on Tue Jan 25th at 12:44pm 2005

Make the eye green/red, blue looks teh lame.



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Posted by Andrei on Tue Jan 25th at 4:31pm 2005

Hmm...dunno, the blue goes better with the orange than red would.
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Posted by Cash Car Star on Wed Jan 26th at 9:17am 2005

The blue makes it look like it should be a {texture.



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Posted by Myrk- on Wed Jan 26th at 12:30pm 2005

It's an inverted snark... thats the point.

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Posted by DrGlass on Wed Jan 26th at 4:25pm 2005

Red - invert - dose not make orange.
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Posted by Mephs on Wed Jan 26th at 4:28pm 2005

Are ALL snark combine discussions like this Myrk? If you haven't agreed on a logo yet... [addsig]




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