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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jan 2nd at 4:15pm 2006

Oh, I forgot to mention that the console was Xbox.



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Posted by Dr Brasso on Mon Jan 2nd at 4:51pm 2006

mm hmm....just a minor f**king detail there.....***runs

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Posted by OtZman on Mon Jan 2nd at 10:36pm 2006

I've tried GUN. Thought it was a boring game. After watching the intro I was thrilled. Looked promising, but the game itself wasn't even close to as cool as the intro sequence. The mouse sense was too high even after turning it down to minimum inside the game. The gameplay was just so boring. If anyone thought the Quake IV had boring fighting (which I didn't, btw), then don't even touch this game. One of the first missions is to knock out buffalos with a horse. Is it just me, or does it seem a bit strange when a horse starts kicking down buffalos with it's front legs? The game looks about as good as GTA:SA. Played it for a few hours. Wasn't fun.



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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jan 2nd at 10:45pm 2006

I have noticed one powerful difference between the Xbox and my PC. The PC is way more powerful.

The Doom 3 version is so stripped down that the HQ textures used in the PC version are missing completely. I am not sure if this is a good example considering how poorly Doom 3 ran on everyone computers but, if all console games are this stripped, how can you guys prefer them over PC gaming? Actually, my question should be, how can you hold them so dearly?

If every title you play on console were available for PC but not stripped (assume for a second that I am also including games not stripped as well), would you still prefer consoles? I realize thats a purely hypothetical question since we will never see every title in PC format but its still a fair question.

I still prefer PC over console. Sorry gents.





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Posted by Crono on Mon Jan 2nd at 11:34pm 2006

Well, first off, you're playing an alright game on an okay console. (A console is only as good as its games), so don't judge an XBox for the entire console world (which is still essentially a computer image)

But, Doom 3 is a port to XBox, most other titles which appear on both Console and PC are ports TO PC. But, of course things are stripped down. The XBox doesn't even meet the system requirements for Doom 3 or HL2 (hardware wise). They had to cut stuff out so everything would run smoothly. This is mostly for things like textures. (little video memory in the machine).

In all actuality, most titles that are ported to PC, sadly, have features ripped out. Halo, is a good example, so is Freedom Fighters, I love that game and I hated playing it on console (pain in the ass), but the console version was the only version with MP. They didn't even do a lan MP for the PC version. (same thing with enter the matrix ... not that that's a great game or anything)

There are some titles that are developed equally, but, usually the PC is a port, because consoles is a larger market (as far as I know).

But, if there's a game that appears on consoles and PC, I usually get it for PC. I can always hook up a controller, so.

The only thing that's annoying, is I can't find a version of King Kong that's as high res as the 360 version. For some reason in the comercials they show the PS2 version, which looks terrible, the high res stuff looks really nice though.


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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jan 2nd at 11:42pm 2006

So essentially what you are saying Crono is, if they did create, not port a game for both that PC is better because of the rather larger sizes of PC's?

I mean, its not the machines fault, they porting seems to be the major contributor to the bad crossing over process.

At least, thats how I read your wording. So, in answer to my hypothetical question, you would prefer PC over console IF all the titles were exactly the same?

Anyone else have an opinion?





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Posted by Crono on Mon Jan 2nd at 11:58pm 2006

Wha? No. However, computer games of the same title tend to cost less. image But, a lot of times they ARE stripped down. I hate hypothetical questions, because it doesn't prove anything, mainly because the situation you're describing won't happen.

It depends on the game. There are different types of controllers, it really depends on the game's style. I don't want to play platformers, generally, on a PC. And I don't want to play first person shooters, generally, on a console. (That may change with the revolution though image)

Also, you can't generally say that PCs are "larger", consoles are SO effecient ... and dedicated. It'd be nice if games on PC didn't rely on an OS or wrapper interface with the hardware, then you could have some games boot instead of the main OS, you'd have no overhead from a bulky POS of running programs.


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Posted by wil5on on Tue Jan 3rd at 1:48am 2006

I'd be glad if Doom 3 or Quake 4 were stripped down for PCs, then I could play them.


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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Tue Jan 3rd at 2:23am 2006

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I have noticed one powerful difference between the Xbox and my PC. The PC is way more powerful.
The Doom 3 version is so stripped down that the HQ textures used in the PC version are missing completely. I am not sure if this is a good example considering how poorly Doom 3 ran on everyone computers but, if all console games are this stripped, how can you guys prefer them over PC gaming? Actually, my question should be, how can you hold them so dearly?


Well, Orph, compare a game that came late in the system's life span and that's just going to happen. The xbox came out about 5 years ago. The computer I had 5 years ago was an Athlon 800, which the Xbox would have at its 700mHz core at least slightly outperformed. There's probably more memory in one small scene in Doom3 even in the xbox version than the PS2 can handle in an entire level <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif"> Now imagine if I tried to run the PC version of doom3 on that system!

PCs will always outpace console hardware by the end of their life cycle. That's what hardware upgrades offer, but the console is still the far better monetary investment in the long run - I've spent less money on my Xbox, PS2, Gamecube, and Xbox 360 combined than I have on any one of my new PCs over those last 5 years, and while I would have paid more had I picked up this last generation of consoles at launch, the same would still be true.

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If every title you play on console were available for PC but not stripped (assume for a second that I am also including games not stripped as well), would you still prefer consoles? I realize thats a purely hypothetical question since we will never see every title in PC format but its still a fair question.
I still prefer PC over console. Sorry gents.


Really, the only games getting stripped are the high profile shooters - doom3 and half-life 2, pretty much, that came late in the life cycle. In the case of some multiplatform titles, the opposite will now be true at the start of this console generation: Kong is visually beefed up on the 360 well beyond the graphical level in any of the other platforms, PC included. Bethesda has stated that Oblivion on the 360 will be equal to a top-tier PC, with most PCs actually stuck with lower quality settings.

Plus, the progress that you see during a console generation, while not as heavy-handed as the technology progression on the PC side, focuses on better use of what's there rather than just requiring more. Games like Resident Evil 4, Shadow of the Colossus, Riddick, etc. take what should have been an impossible goal for the hardware they're designed for, and deliver on the same system you've been using for the last 4-5 years. That's the sort of progress that is certainly exciting about this generation of hardware, too, and something that's very tantalizing now that I'm getting a taste in console development <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

Anyway, even though there's been some great PC games recently, I find myself more and more preferring the console platforms (especially with the fan-freakin-tastic implementation of the new Xbox Live and whatnot with the 360) for the overall experience I can have playing the game... just need to finally get a new TV to seal that deal <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

No matter which I prefer, though, there are absolutely fantastic games on either 'side' and it's too bad that the hardware and the room in which you play the game has more bearing on what of these games people experience vs. the content within (exagerrated even more so in the xbox/ps2/gc fanboy debates :P )


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Posted by French Toast on Tue Jan 3rd at 3:13am 2006

Just got Gun, and just finished installing. GOnna see if it's any good.




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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jan 3rd at 3:25am 2006

Well in the end Andrew it boils down to one unavoidable thing. Money.

I have a limited budget and I am already stupid enough to waste a portion on games I can ill afford so expanding to consoles in my case would be ill advised.

I really do not want to like them so I probably never will simply because I can barely afford my current favorites. My son however likes PC better so he can benefit from my taste in gaming but is much more open minded and owns all our current console titles, which I might add is numbered in the dozens. He has about 6 machines ranging from the old Nintendo to Xbox. Dreamcast and gamecube are in there too if I recall my spending budget clearly.

Anyway, I only have 24 hours each day and spend 27 of those doing things. I really must find a way to restrict myself to 24.

I do not doubt anyone here but I have to live by my own wallet. I trust my son. He says consoles are great. They are therefore great.

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Posted by French Toast on Tue Jan 3rd at 4:02am 2006

Okay. Gun sucks. The graphics and animation are sub-par and the gameplay feels like Castle Wolfenstein (the first one)




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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Tue Jan 3rd at 6:30am 2006

Well, Orph, that's certainly my achilles heel too - my spending on games is absolutely ridiculous. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> (and <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif"> at the same time, heh). When it comes down to it, I just love games... and happen to buy them at a rate I can't possibly play them :P

I do what I can to hit up the value titles (and hit all the consoles after major price drops, save the 360), but it still eats away, especially with the new price point for the 360 games (which I'll rant about later, I'm sure)... Thankfully my wife is supportive and enjoys many of the games, too... otherwise I'd be done for!


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Posted by Crono on Tue Jan 3rd at 7:03am 2006

I think most everyone buys games at a rate they can't play them.
I remember buying the RE games on GCN pretty much all at the same time. Not a wise move. (Especially because I found them cheaper and brand new at Fry's!)

I beat Call of Duty 2 yesterday. I really loved the game, honestly. I would agree that the ending is rather anti-climatic, however, I know that they were going for a "Choose your path" mixed with chronological order type deal. Honestly, all you had to complete first was the Russian missions. You could complete all those, do the American missions THEN the British missions, in that case, taking Caen (if that was the last mission) would have been the climax of the game. And that was actually much harder than the final American mission. But, I enjoyed it.

There's some beefs I have with the game in general. I just wish there was more interactivity. You can't interact with anything except weapons. They had the bottles at the beginning, which can be destroyed, but that's really nowhere else. I think FEAR and HL2 has spoiled me. The one thing I really liked was the size of the environments.

So, after I finished that, I installed Black and White 2 (finally). I'd been avoiding it, since I couldn't get it to work without a cd ... even with an imagine :. So, I just bit the bullet and used the CD to play. It's a really cool game, I LOVE the changes they made. For instance, the game is pretty much, an RTS now. (more so, than the first) Your creature actually listens. And, as it encounters new things you can teach it more. It's nice now, that you can see its thoughts, so you can stop it before it does something. There's also more modes for the creature: free will, gatherer, builder, and soldier.
It's not quite like what they showed in the videos. I mean, on my machine throwing doesn't even work the way the tutorial says it does :S You'll have to do a lot of customization with the controls until they're comfortable, at the start everything is controlled with the mouse and it's very awkward.

I really like the game though. I'd recommend it definitely. Especially if you're looking for something that will not only be fun, but take awhile to beat. (I've spent about three or four hours on the game and I just unlocked island 4 out of 8) I suppose it feels longer because of what you're doing.
Sometimes though, people are just stupid, I think that was done on purpose though, to temp you to decimate cities.


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Posted by satchmo on Tue Jan 3rd at 7:05am 2006

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happen to buy them at a rate I can't possibly play them

My wife buys me a lot of the games I play. I actually had to ask her to slow down because I just can't keep up playing them. Because she buys them for me as gifts, I feel obligated to play them.

I am working quite a bit nowadays, so I am really stretched thin for time.


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Posted by wil5on on Tue Jan 3rd at 8:28am 2006

The main problem with the CoD series is that they went for the big ending with the first game. Those of you whove played the game will know what I'm talking about, and why they cant really outdo it. It's one of the best game endings I've seen (in fact I'd only put the endings of HL and HL2 above it, for the feeling they give you after completing the game).


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Posted by Gorbachev on Wed Jan 4th at 3:19am 2006

Thanks for the spoiler there bud.



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Posted by wil5on on Wed Jan 4th at 4:20am 2006

Sorry for telling you how the second world war ended, but I'll edit my post.


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Posted by Gorbachev on Wed Jan 4th at 7:38am 2006

I know how it ended, but not the game, it could have ended in a myriad of ways or locations.



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Jan 4th at 12:13pm 2006

WW2 ended on the deck of the battleship Missouri. I doubt seriously that is how any game you will play ends so, knowing in advance that a game ends differently hardly steals any of its value.

But then again, who am I to talk? I have a dozen unfinished games laying around.

*cries*

Stupid eyeballs.





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