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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Feb 13th at 2:16pm 2005

Wish me luck, I just ordered my new computer. If all goes well, I will finally have the PC of my dreams.
This motherboard
This processor
This video card
This DVD Burner
This Hard drive
2 sticks of this ram
This floppy
All wrapped up in this case, with 2 extra cooling case fans, and an upgraded 550 watt power source.
/me does jig.


Now, I have already been read the riot act from some about how stupid I was for ordering this particular machine, so understand, I am well aware of my defects

For the rest of you, be it known that I am very excited, in spite of my shortfalls..

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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sun Feb 13th at 2:32pm 2005

I have that case! It's purdy.
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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Sun Feb 13th at 3:25pm 2005

Hooray for Orph!

And hey, for that price and compared to what you're coming from, even if such and such isn't as good as it could be or whatever unleashed the riot act, it'll still be a huge jump over what you have.

Damn, I gotta get some upgrades in my system, soon... Too long since I've done any tinkering! Looking to expand to a GF6 6800 Ultra and those Dell 20.1" LCD displays. I say "mmmm." The wallet/credit card says "OOF!" [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Feb 13th at 3:40pm 2005

yes, a marked upgrade from my current PC.

on another note, i am torn and would like some input.

would it be better to get a 19" CRT, or a 17" LCD monitor?

my funds are limited and both of these seem about the same price ranges.

i have heard that some LCD monitors are not very good at playing games. if you guys recommend that route, please suggest what specs, as all LCD monitors are definitely not created equal.

any serious replies welcome and my thanks in advance.

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Posted by Gwil on Sun Feb 13th at 3:46pm 2005

Avoid unbranded stuff if you want a TFT - mine causes horrible tearing on TFC, think this might a game specific bug though.

It's best to stick with the well known names like LG if you want a decent one Orph. Blurring/Tearing seems to be the only problem i've heard of with flatscreens. You're looking at response time as the best indication of a monitors quality (I think)

10-15ms = fairly low, average
25ms+ = good. Iiyama, Dell, Phillips... stuff like that

I could be massively wrong of course. I picked a well recommended budget option (17") for ?129ish and it hasn't caused me any difficulties, aside from the vertical tearing in TFC, which is minimal anyway.
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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Feb 13th at 3:55pm 2005

? quoting Gwil


10-15ms = fairly low, average
25ms+ = good. Iiyama, Dell, Phillips... stuff like that

so, the bigger response time is better? i had it all bassackwards, i figured the lower the better.. thanx gwil.

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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Sun Feb 13th at 3:55pm 2005

Umm... you want lower response times. Many LCDs are in the 25ms range, but the good stuff gets down to about 16 or 12. 16 seems to be the point where most people say the blurring is negligible, though odds are unless you're one of those people who gets headaches at 60hz on a CRT, you probably won't notice [addsig]



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Posted by Wild Card on Sun Feb 13th at 3:56pm 2005

Gwil have you tryed Vsync for TFC? If that option is available. Often, thats teh source of tearing. Not the monitor.

Most LCD's have too slow responce times which will cause fades, like in racing games.

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Posted by Gwil on Sun Feb 13th at 4:00pm 2005

I haven't Wild, but TBH the problem isn't too much of an annoyance to get me off my ass and do something about it

The response times thing i'm talking about is the one Wild makes reference too, the blurring problem.

As I said, I don't know, but i'm passing on my bastardised version of conversations i'd heard between people about blurring on TFT monitors.
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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Feb 13th at 4:00pm 2005

? quoting KungFuSquirrel
, though odds are unless you're one of those people who gets headaches at 60hz on a CRT, you probably won't notice

i am one of those people .. i think a 19" crt is the best route for my strange affliction.

thanx everyone for their thoughts.

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Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Feb 14th at 3:14am 2005

I've got the same case, and a 19" CRT as well. I'd take the CRT over a TFT/LCD any day. An LCD will still have a blur/fade even with low response times, there's a lot about LCDs that's a total crock, they're highly overrated even at this stage.
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Posted by Crono on Mon Feb 14th at 4:32am 2005

All I was saying is you could take some features off that you're obviously not going to use and apply that money to other, more needed, areas. Not to mention, I was trying to show you that you overpayed ... : [addsig]



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Posted by Dark Tree on Mon Feb 14th at 4:54am 2005

1st off...I too have that tower. Although the light that is in front is pretty annoying so I had to unplug it. It flashess different colors sparatically. The side light is nice though.

About the LCD or CRT. I have an Apple 23" HD Cinema Display which I belive is some form of LCD and it has a 16m response time...I think. There IS a very slight but noticeable blur. I don't think you can go wrong with CRT monitors. You know what you'd be getting. CRTs are tried and true, and you know the pitcure'll look nice. With LCDs you would have to be carefull. just pay attention to those response times. 16m works for me. Although, your screen never gets quite as black as a CRT. Again..these are all little things. With LCD though of course you get the flat projection that doesn't warp your image (as much)....although if you are used to a crt you wouldn't notice.

Sorry I'm not more decisive but I absolutely love my Apple lcd widescreen monitor and suggest you get it (yeah yeah it's apple gimme a break ;-) ). But unless you want to sell your left nut to get one, I think Those two options you proposed sound equally nice....and as for the CRT....it is bigger...which is nice....

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Posted by $loth on Mon Feb 14th at 9:17am 2005

Floppy? What age are you living in
With the hard drive I would go for a SATA, seems a waste otherwise. Nice graphics and CPU
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Posted by OtZman on Mon Feb 14th at 10:14am 2005

That's a nice comp you're putting together there Orph.


? quoting $loth
Floppy? What age are you living in
With the hard drive I would go for a SATA, seems a waste otherwise. Nice graphics and CPU


I needed a floppy to install win on my SATA hdd, as I only had two SATA and no IDE. Needed to install driver for the win setup to find them, or something like that. Floppys aren't that expensive either.

Computer parts seem so much cheaper over there. That processor costs around $405 over here.

Good luck with your new comp .
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Posted by Crono on Mon Feb 14th at 10:23am 2005

sloth, having a floppy is a good idea. You'll need it at some point.

Also, don't even try, he has WAY too much pride in that list. I mean, it's fine, but there's plenty of things that could have made it cheaper and an overall better system (such as ditching the needlessly excessive power supply).

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Posted by thursday- on Mon Feb 14th at 11:32am 2005

Floppys are great for backing up map sources (in a zip file). Especially if your CDRW drive is broke
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Posted by The Unbound on Tue Feb 15th at 2:57am 2005

Hope the mem is CL 2.5. Almost the same price as CL 3 and it makes a difference. CL 2 it?s expensive.>>

The board it?s great, but don?t use the AI overclocking. And if it?s the first rev, you might have problems overclocking and using a sata hd connected to the via controller. Data corruption. Use the promisse controller instead.>>

>>About CRT vs TFT, I only have one thing to say: LG L1980U.>>

What you save in a CRT, you pay with your eyes?





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Posted by LAzerMANiac on Tue Feb 15th at 5:25pm 2005

hat one just fricking owns. My PC is about 3 times as bad if not more (not doing math)

800 MHz AMD Athlon

256 SDRAM

Abit K7 motherboard

Radeon 9600 SE

Soundblaster Live! 5.1

200GB HDD (but I get to use only 60, everything else is my family's file dump)

450W power

no floppy drive

CDRW

mediocrity at its finest.

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Posted by $loth on Tue Feb 15th at 5:48pm 2005

Orph, may I suggest ordering some artic silver thermal paste, also get some Isopropyl from your chemists and clean it with a lint free cloth (like the ones used on glasses) to clean the CPU cooler before putting on any thermal paste, it will clean off any oils which could be on there.
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