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Posted by thesilence on Mon Feb 21st at 6:48pm 2005

FFS, Plz can someone help me, I've tried searching on www.microsoft.com and all they give me are secruity updates, , I'm so angry and i want it sooooooooooooooo bad plz help

Kasc

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Posted by Gwil on Mon Feb 21st at 7:01pm 2005

Does it even exist yet? I heard there was a Windows coming to include support for the new breed of 64bit chips (like mine) but it isn't out yet.. let alone even announced. [addsig]



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Posted by $loth on Mon Feb 21st at 7:17pm 2005

You can only get the beta for a trial period of about 300 days, it should be on MS website somewhere.
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Posted by SuperCobra on Mon Feb 21st at 7:40pm 2005

GWIL it was annouced a long time ago. Yes there is a beta version but when the full thing comes out u will need to buy it OR u can trade in your Windows XP for it.
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Posted by Damic on Mon Feb 21st at 7:54pm 2005

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GWIL it was annouced a long time ago. Yes there is a beta version but when the full thing comes out u will need to buy it OR u can trade in your Windows XP for it.
wow trade winxp32 for a winxp64 yeey njammie




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Posted by Gwil on Mon Feb 21st at 7:55pm 2005

So it isn't actually out to purchase or fully supported yet?

I didn't say it wasn't coming, I was more saying it hadn't been announced as officially out. Either way nuts to a 300 day beta, i'll wait for the full pack to come out.

Most important question is how much will they charge for it, and will they include options for a cheap upgrade for legal owners of XP? I'd hope so, but i'm not entirely unrealistic when it comes to interpreting Microsofts business strategy

edit: Oooh I see, very good news indeed

I shall be trading mine in then Pays to be legal, for once! [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Mon Feb 21st at 8:04pm 2005

You guys do realize that if you're running an AMD 64/FX chip(s) this probably would run the same or barely faster then XP-32, right?

I'm specifically talking about the AMD chips, because they just support 64-bit processing. They've actually been developed as a transitional processor to optimize 32-bit applications and run 64-bit applications. So, in all actuality, using a 32-bit version may run faster. (If you wonder what the hell I'm talking about: go to AMDs site and read some of their documentation.) [addsig]



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Posted by Gwil on Mon Feb 21st at 8:12pm 2005

Oh will you shut up raining on everyones parade for once Crono

You sound like a stuck bloody record dissing everyones hardware - if Doom 3, Half Life 2 and Quake 4 play well, we can use our apps without slowdown and our PC is fast and reliable, does it really matter?

No, it doesn't. [addsig]



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Posted by SuperCobra on Mon Feb 21st at 8:31pm 2005

I dont know why gamers think intels cpus are better. AMD owns intel and will for a while I would know my dad is a network administrator at INTEL and he perfers AMD most of the guys there he says own AMD and say they are at intel for the money. Intels new cpus over heat so the cpu has to throttle it self back so the new intel chips dont run at full power all the time.
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Posted by Crono on Mon Feb 21st at 8:33pm 2005

I didn't "dis" anyone's hardware, gwil.

The operating system its self probably isn't very reliable as well. Why would you change what you have for something new when what you have would run faster (potentially)?

f**k it. [addsig]



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Posted by Gwil on Mon Feb 21st at 8:34pm 2005

It's diss, but you've missed my point.

It doesn't pay to be a cynical whinger all the time, you know Some people are quite happy to live in ignorant bliss rather than be told their new PC/chip etc isn't really that great after all.

You know? [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Mon Feb 21st at 8:45pm 2005

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It's diss, but you've missed my point.

It doesn't pay to be a cynical whinger all the time, you know Some people are quite happy to live in ignorant bliss rather than be told their new PC/chip etc isn't really that great after all.

You know?

It doesn't matter, it isn't a word.

You missed my point entirly: The AMD 64 chips are GOOD. No other 64-bit chip optimizes 32-bit applications. Hell some of them can't even run 32-bit applications. I was saying: because of this specific ability it would be smarter to use the version of software that get's optimized if the 64-bit version is just the same thing with 64-bit memory and no optimizations of it's own (very possible).

I wasn't being cynical at all. You just interpreted what I said as a bad thing. [addsig]



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Posted by Gwil on Mon Feb 21st at 8:48pm 2005

Never mind..

Oh, and diss is a word

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=diss

If your'e gonna argue about something, stick to computing dis is an abbreviation and a MAJOR prefix, let alone slang for putting someone down.

Crono, all i'm saying is that when it comes to tech issues you seem to rain the negative points on peoples rigs or setups - and I don't think people REALLY care (and it doesn't REALLY matter) as long as the FPS is high and the games perform well.

That's not as a "moderator" either, just a personal opinion [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Mon Feb 21st at 8:58pm 2005

I wasn't arguing actually, meerly explaining what I said, which shouldn't be needed. Apparently, when I say it: people don't care. Yet, if anyone else said anything else about the subject, even if it's wrong, that knowledge would be taken to heart. I've seen it many times, especially on this site (not in this thread).

I'm tired of having people who know nothing about this subject telling me bulls**t about a specific product or design just because they don't want to be wrong.

I was trying to give useful information that would save you time and trouble, perhaps money as well. You remember what helping is, right?

Here: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=help [addsig]



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Posted by Gwil on Mon Feb 21st at 9:04pm 2005

I'm making a larger point Crono, not just this thread.

Helping people isn't in my nature, I don't have the patience. Nor is tit for tat back and forth identikit arguing. The dictionary.com retort would have been funny if I'd claimed a perfectly valid word didn't exist

I think perhaps if you are trying to help and educate people about their systems if you came across as little less negative and minus the attitude when people have already chosen. Text doesn't mix well with rhetorical questions, as it usually skews the meaning of what you're trying to say, for instance.

As proved by this thread and both of our posts. [addsig]



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Posted by Myrk- on Mon Feb 21st at 10:22pm 2005

Quiet fools! More talk on this 64bit windows... One question I'm sure Crono can answer... Xbox is 128bit... So was PS2. Why are PC's so behind the times? [addsig]



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Posted by Leperous on Tue Feb 22nd at 12:13am 2005

I think Crono does give a lot of VERY good tech advice though yes, I'd have to agree he is often rather negative Oh well, such is the way of our crummy world!





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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Feb 22nd at 12:26am 2005

personally, i don't mind crono reminding me of my shortfalls all the time. he is correct most of the time, and even when he is not, i keep him ignorant of that point simply because it is one thing i know that he does not

and, i have the *taboo* longhorn, 64bit windows opsys.. i am afraid to install it, but i do have it

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Posted by SuperCobra on Tue Feb 22nd at 12:27am 2005

yeah 64 bit windows is gonna be good.

bottle necked gfx cards wont help tho paired with a high end cpu and windows 64.
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Posted by omegaslayer on Tue Feb 22nd at 1:23am 2005

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Oh will you shut up raining on everyones parade for once Crono


YES FINALLY SOMEONE STUCK IT TO CRONO! But I agree with him..... The 64 Windows might be faster, but only if your system is put together correctly will it be faster than 32 Windows.

Back To Topic: Ill wait for the 64 bit version of windows to be out a while (till they work out all the bugs that come with new software).

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One question I'm sure Crono can answer... Xbox is 128bit... So was PS2. Why are PC's so behind the times?


I don't know the true answer to this (although im sure crono will "correct" me) But I believe its that the consoles have very High end hardware in them. The CPU RAM (very fast RAM at that) and Video card are actually one unit together, not like PCs where you have the CPU RAM and Video card sitting on a "connecting piece" (mother board). But Im sure there is a reason that only a computer expert knows.
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