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Re: Calling on all Europeans and Britons
Posted by Gorbachev on Sun Feb 27th at 9:48pm 2005


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If anyone asks, just say you're Canadian. Problems solved.


You will get one hell of a beating if you do. "Blame Canada" is a strong theme in our society, next to "Blame America" then "Blame Tony Blair".


Where is this coming from? I've never ever heard of negativity from Brits towards Canadians, we're still practically commonwealth in a lot of cases. And we didn't support the States/Blair's big fiasco.
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Posted by ReNo on Sun Feb 27th at 9:57pm 2005


Gotta love how "not supporting" is beneficial for international relations
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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Feb 27th at 10:11pm 2005


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Gotta love how "not supporting" is beneficial for international relations

i was kinda thinking, not supporting can be worse than choosing the wrong side. mainly, you can never tell which is truly the wrong side till its all over, but you know you're wrong in advance if you fail to chose. :/

/me bows out before i get into more hot water.

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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Sun Feb 27th at 10:22pm 2005


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Says he coming from Arkansas... "Hey maw! Let's cook us some vittles! Guh-huk!"

i do not have a native Arkansan accent lep. in fact i have little that would define an origin in my speech at all. i think that stems from my constant moving as a child maybe. i grew up in the west as a child, but spent may winters in the east in the same time period. accents are acquired in your young years i think.

far easterner notice i am not from local, but so do far westerners. but mostly its speech choices of wording. for instance. when i delivered to California, i told them "i have the bus out on the road, i need to move it" apparently they do not use the word "road" in that context. they asked me where i was from, when i told them all they could say was "figures, from the woods"

any who's ask TB, my accent, if i have one is not Arkansan.

I don't know what an Arkansan accent sounds like... You sound like a midwesterner, Orph. I think the closest thing I've heard to it that I could identify with a specific locality would be rural Ohio. Come to that however, most people east of the mountains in Oregon and Washington have a more moderate version of your speech. Call it heartland-speak, and leave it at that.

I guess I must have a west-coast accent (if there is such a thing) because people here sounded "normal" to me when I moved here. I don't know how that happened though since my parents were from the Midwest and I grew up in New England.

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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Feb 27th at 10:49pm 2005


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I don't know what an Arkansan accent sounds like... You sound like a midwesterner, Orph. I think the closest thing I've heard to it that I could identify with a specific locality would be rural Ohio. Come to that however, most people east of the mountains in Oregon and Washington have a more moderate version of your speech. Call it heartland-speak, and leave it at that.

good call, you know that east place i spent my time? it was indeed Ohio. my vocabulary has taken on an Arkansan slur over the years, but i do not "fit in" around here. my pronunciations are to precise for Arkansas.

as for your accent, you prolly picked yours up from your parents as a child, not so much your location at the time.

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Posted by gimpinthesink on Sun Feb 27th at 11:56pm 2005


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I think about 40% of the British population wouldn't be able to point to Canada on an unmarked map, let alone know it used to be one of our colonies which didn't rebel.


About 40% couldn't point out London on a unmarked map.




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Posted by Gorbachev on Sun Feb 27th at 11:58pm 2005


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Gotta love how "not supporting" is beneficial for international relations

i was kinda thinking, not supporting can be worse than choosing the wrong side. mainly, you can never tell which is truly the wrong side till its all over, but you know you're wrong in advance if you fail to chose. :/

/me bows out before i get into more hot water.



Personally I think it's a bit foolish to think that you must choose a "side" if there even are technical sides to pick anyway. As a third party, what's to say there isn't a third option. I mean, there were countries in WWII that were literally on the borders of those in the heat of battle that were neutral. I don't hear many complaints about them not joining in then.
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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Feb 28th at 12:14am 2005


i think you have a point gorby, but i also think that as a 3rd action, inactivity is not an option. by its very definition it defies the reasons.

as for the neutral countries, i wasn't alive in WW2, despite what you all may think about my advanced years. it was my understanding that those countries did not chose to be neutral, they opted for neutrality in favor of getting the s**t beat out of them. i have seen similar instances in cases like muggings. people chose to not act, in favor of not getting shot by the mugger.

may not be a fair representation, but it is accurate enough.

i do not think inaction is reason enough. sorry.

no offense intended of course.

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Posted by $loth on Mon Feb 28th at 3:48am 2005


How is cananda the most hated country is briton?
P.S. I could easily, everyone knows it's above austalia.
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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Feb 28th at 3:50am 2005


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P.S. I could easily, everyone knows it's above austalia.

i though London was on the bit of an island to the right of Australia?

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Posted by $loth on Mon Feb 28th at 3:51am 2005


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P.S. I could easily, everyone knows it's above austalia.

i though London was on the bit of an island to the right of Australia?



No, that's denmark (notice the non sarcasm )
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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Feb 28th at 3:54am 2005


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No, that's denmark (notice the non sarcasm )

sorry, i mean't south

my bad

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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Mon Feb 28th at 7:24am 2005


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i think you have a point gorby, but i also think that as a 3rd action, inactivity is not an option. by its very definition it defies the reasons.

as for the neutral countries, i wasn't alive in WW2, despite what you all may think about my advanced years. it was my understanding that those countries did not chose to be neutral, they opted for neutrality in favor of getting the s**t beat out of them. i have seen similar instances in cases like muggings. people chose to not act, in favor of not getting shot by the mugger.

may not be a fair representation, but it is accurate enough.

i do not think inaction is reason enough. sorry.

no offense intended of course.

This may have been true for some countries, but I think Switzerland truly was neutral out of principal rather than fear. The Swiss used to export the most feared mercenary armies in the world, until they were banned from doing so by international treaty. I think the Vatican is the only "country" that still employs them. I don't think anyone would want to attack the Swiss if only for purely historical reasons. Plus there is that mandatory military service thing (I think) so every man in the country has military training.

In the case of Canada, they have the luxury of living to the north of the U.S. As such they don't have any imaginable national security issues. I'm sure the Mexicans would eat them for lunch if it weren't for us.

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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Mon Feb 28th at 8:07am 2005


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If anyone asks, just say you're Canadian. Problems solved.


It may sound crass, but people will open up to you here if you say that.
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Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Feb 28th at 8:09am 2005


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i think you have a point gorby, but i also think that as a 3rd action, inactivity is not an option. by its very definition it defies the reasons.

as for the neutral countries, i wasn't alive in WW2, despite what you all may think about my advanced years. it was my understanding that those countries did not chose to be neutral, they opted for neutrality in favor of getting the s**t beat out of them. i have seen similar instances in cases like muggings. people chose to not act, in favor of not getting shot by the mugger.

may not be a fair representation, but it is accurate enough.

i do not think inaction is reason enough. sorry.

no offense intended of course.



I think you may have a different idea of what contributions Canada truly provides. We do actually send troops and did, but as a country our mentality is if not polar opposite to the States. In many ways although in the world we are the most alike, we are also the most different. We did not do absolutely nothing, but we didn't push the agenda either. Personally I think Bush is an idiot, and his pushing of this Missile Defence is ludicrously pathetic. We don't want to participate in something that not only is logistically improbably but is not cost effective in any way. We figure by not offending others you won't get attacked. I don't fear for my life, and like most others in Canada we don't live in an aura of fear. When I hear anything on the news about somehow our power lines are subject to terrorist attack I think "Of course they are, same with anything else, no s**t. But if you don't give 'em reason to, and don't impose yourself upon them then what reason would they have to attack?" As an outsider I find that the reason that Americans are frowned upon is because as a country you seem to always have a need to have at least one finger in the pie.
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Posted by Agent Smith on Mon Feb 28th at 8:09am 2005


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sorry, i mean't south



In that case your talking about Tasmania Orph. It's Australia's equivalent of your redneck back waters in the US, where inbreeding yokels abound .




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Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Feb 28th at 8:12am 2005


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If anyone asks, just say you're Canadian. Problems solved.


It may sound crass, but people will open up to you here if you say that.


I'm still curious as to the reasons or exactly what context you're talking in.
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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Mon Feb 28th at 8:16am 2005


very typically, at least in norwich (the closest large city) the only americans people tend to see are ones screaming biblical propaganda at everyone and shutting down plays and all the rest of it. Its just a stereotypical thing really, americans tend to be very big headed and canadians always seem very neutral & thus dont really bother anyone here. Of course these are just stereotypes.
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Posted by Agent Smith on Mon Feb 28th at 8:16am 2005


I'm also planning a European Vacation (Hopefully bearing no resemblance to the National Lampoon's movie ) when I finish uni, assuming I can save up the doe, which is looking less and less likely in my current job. Good thing is Australian's are pretty much loved universaly, and I'd like to see some corrupt eastern European cops try to fleece some one who may or may not catch, kill and skin crocodiles with nothing but a knife .

In any case it'd be something of a battlefield tour, checking out many of the locations from the first and second world war. I would have liked to started with D-Day, follow WW2, then finish with the memorial at Gallipoli, but unfortunately the dates around the wrong way. I'll also be checking out a whole s**te load of other stuff while I'm there.
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Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Feb 28th at 8:19am 2005


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very typically, at least in norwich (the closest large city) the only americans people tend to see are ones screaming biblical propaganda at everyone and shutting down plays and all the rest of it. Its just a stereotypical thing really, americans tend to be very big headed and canadians always seem very neutral & thus dont really bother anyone here. Of course these are just stereotypes.


Real Canadians know to reveal only as asked. Or, if mistaken for American.

I think I had just read your original post wrong. It sounded like if you were Canadian then the locals would rip you a new one.
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