Interesting point of view
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Re: Interesting point of view
Posted by Andrei on Thu Mar 10th at 2:49pm 2005


http://www.ircspy.com/comments.asp?mode=view&id=2506

I have to admit that i've never looked at things from this angle.

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Re: Interesting point of view
Posted by Orpheus on Thu Mar 10th at 2:51pm 2005


one responce, and from a mature reader too.. how stimulating. [addsig]



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Re: Interesting point of view
Posted by Andrei on Thu Mar 10th at 2:56pm 2005


Still, the author is somewhat right. You need a microscope to be able to read that fine print that says that an internet connection is required. I sure didn't spot that fine print. [addsig]



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Posted by Andrei on Thu Mar 10th at 5:21pm 2005


Oh, and here's another interesting thread that awnsers the ancient question of "Where the **** is this city17?!?":

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-1643.html [addsig]




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Re: Interesting point of view
Posted by Crono on Thu Mar 10th at 11:30pm 2005


Odd, since the US copy comes with a card that specifically states you need an internet connection and steam, with a suggested broadband connection.

Also, you need to take into consideration that the majority of people who bought the game didn't just see it sitting on the shelfs one day. They saw the E3 videos and crapped their pants. You also have to remember that there is NO advertisement for HL2 (excluding certain game magazines) outside the internet. This also suggests that the user already has an internet connection and knows about HL2.

Also, if you had any questions ... you could have visited steampowered.com and looked at the FAQ section. And the logo for steam and steampowered web address is on the package of HL2.

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Posted by Gwil on Thu Mar 10th at 11:33pm 2005


UK had television adverts, actually

Just a beating heart style HL2 symbol. Quite naff, in reality! And it does clearly state on the back of retail copies "Internet Connection Required" - "Other: Internet Connection/DVD Drive"


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Posted by Crono on Thu Mar 10th at 11:36pm 2005


Oh ... stupid US never has anything but PSolame2 and Crap-Box commercials. Sometimes they'll have the "PC" symbol too, however, they always show console gameplay ... I don't know why, since the PC version would look better. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Mar 10th at 11:44pm 2005


mine clearly states "internet connection required" under minimum specs. [addsig]



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Posted by fishy on Thu Mar 10th at 11:59pm 2005


i think all the packaging said that an internet connection was required. the concern seems to be that valve should have made it clear that this was for much more than simply registering your copy. [addsig]



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Posted by Captain P on Fri Mar 11th at 12:31am 2005


There isn't a Steam logo on my DVD-box, but it's mentioned on a small paper with installation instructions. Quite clearly actually. It also mentiones when and how off-line play is available. Not on the box, but still... it's there.
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Re: Interesting point of view
Posted by DrGlass on Fri Mar 11th at 12:52am 2005


I dont think that takeing valve to court over the steam problem would work at all. I've had my share of problems but in the end steam works better than any other program even remotly like it.

It took me weeks to get BF 1942 to work.

Also I think the only who have any right to complane about the internet valification process are those who have never in their life 'stolen' a program. If valve didn't want to keep money in their pocket and pervent their game from being stolen then we wouldn't have to go through the valification process.

Steam is an amazing system and any problems are more than over shadowd by how well it works. Like all other things in the world we dont notice it untill it breaks. HL2 has run 1000 times more than it hasn't run.

If you didn't get HL2 to work and want to blame some one then blame yourself for not reserching it enough. If you didn't have internet, or had pay-as-you-go then you should look into anything that might need internet.
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Posted by Andrei on Fri Mar 11th at 8:24am 2005


Steam works for me too although it really is annoying sometimes and still has lots of bugs. I was just trying to point-out how far some are willing to go, and when someone is ready to go to court for such a thing, the whole world is going to hell.

What I don't like about steam is that it does things behind you'r back, even when you tell it NOT to update.
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