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Posted by SuperCobra on Fri Mar 11th at 4:14am 2005

Ok I have firefox right now but I hear the dev team is falling apart I have tried opera but it really blows. Can anyone suggest a GOOD browser?
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Posted by satchmo on Fri Mar 11th at 4:18am 2005

What's wrong with FireFox? It works fine for me.

Don't trust any rumors until the browser itself is falling apart. It's pretty bug-free so far.

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Posted by Crono on Fri Mar 11th at 4:31am 2005

Last time I checked the development team was a community smiley

And if you want an alternative to Firefox, try regular mozilla. I perfer it actually.
Other then that, Netscape is exactly the same as mozilla now too.

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Posted by Dark Tree on Fri Mar 11th at 5:00am 2005

Good God. Use Internet Explorer. Internet Explorer is a damn fine browser. Tell me one thing bad about it. I'm sick of people whining about it all the time. [addsig]



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Posted by Gorbachev on Fri Mar 11th at 5:35am 2005

I personally combo Firefox, IE and Opera all for different functions and uses since each has its own strengths and weaknesses.
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Posted by Crono on Fri Mar 11th at 5:57am 2005

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Good God. Use Internet Explorer. Internet Explorer is a damn fine browser. Tell me one thing bad about it. I'm sick of people whining about it all the time.


It allows root access to your system. Where as a browser like mozilla requires permission by the user. In fact, the largest issue with Windows in general is that there's constant root access to your system.

It really isn't a damn fine browser. MS doesn't even think it's a damn fine browser. They're trying to find people to lead up the "Secure IE" team. No one will take the healm. [addsig]



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Posted by Dark Tree on Fri Mar 11th at 6:32am 2005

When was the last time someone accessed your system root through IE? [addsig]



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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Fri Mar 11th at 7:05am 2005

I like Firefox because it has a handy Web Developer toolbar, tabbed browsing, and RSS bookmarks, as well as other things that I can't remember right now.
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Posted by Dash on Fri Mar 11th at 7:18am 2005

IE literally gave life to spyware




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Posted by G4MER on Fri Mar 11th at 8:17am 2005

http://www.maxthon.com/

Max is a good program, its based on the IE standard but has better security, tabbed browseing and it seems to load faster than FireFox.

I also like this one..

http://www.phaseout.net/ ( this is what I use now. Its radicle )

Do a Google search for Tabbed Browser, there are hundreds of them now.. some blow, some are worth a try.. its all about what you want out of your browser. Some people like to skin the browser, some want it to be very clean and simple, and some people want it to rock there sox off..

Here is one that I have just downloaded to give a try.. never seen it before..

http://www.kopassa.com/
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Posted by Andrei on Fri Mar 11th at 8:38am 2005

And this fool *points at self* uses...netscape .
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Posted by Leperous on Fri Mar 11th at 10:50am 2005

? quoting Dash
IE literally gave life to spyware

Yes, and eventually we'll have Firefox spyware and the same stuff- whatever browser people use, miscreants and ne'er-do-wells will target them! IE is fine for the most part, and as it's got a better Google toolbar I've never once felt like moving to Mozilla. Opera just sucks ass, though, hate it.





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Posted by fraggard on Fri Mar 11th at 11:21am 2005

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? quoting Dash
IE literally gave life to spyware

Yes, and eventually we'll have Firefox spyware and the same stuff- whatever browser people use, miscreants and ne'er-do-wells will target them! IE is fine for the most part, and as it's got a better Google toolbar I've never once felt like moving to Mozilla. Opera just sucks ass, though, hate it.



IE allows ActiveX. That's the main problem. Get rid of ActiveX, add tabbed browsing, and Firefox will have a very small advantage left




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Posted by SpiKeRs on Fri Mar 11th at 11:27am 2005

Since moving to firefox, Ive been very happy with it. I've not found the need to try anything else out. IE isnt that bad imo, its just firefox feels like a nicer piece of software, a bit simpler, more secure, not as bloated etc.



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Posted by Mephs on Fri Mar 11th at 11:51am 2005

I use firefox and it crashes on me at least once a day. But I can't vouch for the stability of my system itself

Since I'm always a good decade or so behind with hardware, I like my programs short and sweet; all the pointless extras and nipple tassles stuffed into programs only serve to give me more headaches.

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ne'er-do-wells

Made me chuckle.
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Posted by Captain P on Fri Mar 11th at 12:17pm 2005

How about PNG alpha transparancy? IE is one of few major browsers that still doesn't support it...

But that's probably not meaningfull to the average user. I think a browser choice is still a personal preference. Some like it different than others, some make more use of specific options than others.

// Me looks at IE history thread... yeah, some specific options indeed...
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Posted by Loco on Fri Mar 11th at 12:19pm 2005

There's nothing specfically bad about IE, it's just there are a load more features in Firefox. Using the school PCs I really miss the tabbed browsing, ability to handle RSS, and the various extensions (all seven) which I use with Firefox.
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Posted by fishy on Fri Mar 11th at 12:50pm 2005

is there any point in using non IE browsers for their 'security', if you still have IE installed on your system? i'll admit that i know very little about this stuff, but i do know that i've read some critical update bumf that clearly stated you would still be at risk, even if you didn't use IE. Just having it installed on your system would put you at risk.

if MS have got around this entirely, then fine. but if not, i don't see any point in using 'secure' browsers if you're gonna keep IE installed. unless you like them for their other features.

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Posted by Loco on Fri Mar 11th at 2:02pm 2005

I would have thought that any security flaws in IE are only vulnerable if you are actually using IE. I keep IE for things like Windows update and a select few sites which don't like Firefox. Incidentally, my blog doesn't really work in IE, but works fine in Firefox!
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Posted by fraggard on Fri Mar 11th at 2:25pm 2005

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is there any point in using non IE browsers for their 'security', if you still have IE installed on your system? i'll admit that i know very little about this stuff, but i do know that i've read some critical update bumf that clearly stated you would still be at risk, even if you didn't use IE. Just having it installed on your system would put you at risk.

if MS have got around this entirely, then fine. but if not, i don't see any point in using 'secure' browsers if you're gonna keep IE installed. unless you like them for their other features.



That's very true. IE is built so deeply into windows that it is impossible to remove it completely without losing a lot of functionality. Lots of applications, (e.g. WMP) will still *require* IE to function, so this leaves a lot of exploitable holes open.

Apparently, the newer WMV pr0n videos come with DRM, which causes WMP to contact the website of the owner through IE. Instant Spyware





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