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Posted by rival on Fri Apr 8th at 8:19pm 2005

what were the combine like during the 7 hour war? because the soldiers are human. in the 7 hour war it would just be impractical if it was only striders and gunships and i really wouldnt expect those huge ugly slug things to do any fighting



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Posted by satchmo on Fri Apr 8th at 8:30pm 2005

Don't forget, the Combines have the blue tower thing that rains bombs from the sky. There might even be a mobile version of that.

Imagine, if they mobilized that sort of technology on a large scale, the Earthlings have no chance.

Have you read "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"? If so, I imagine it was along the same line of invasion--global encirclement and rapid annihilation. Or it could be something like the movie "Independence Day". Except in this case the Earth lost.

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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Apr 8th at 8:41pm 2005

I imagine it was a combination of two things.

1. There were probably headcrabs (therefore also zombies), bullsquids, antlions and such rampaging across earth with the rift to the boarder world open after the accident at Black Mesa.

2. The combine was attacking the Earth at the same time, and offered a way to protect the Earth from the random creatures if they surrendered....

What do you think?




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Posted by satchmo on Fri Apr 8th at 9:16pm 2005

Sounds good in theory, but how do you get a coordinated surrender in less than seven hours? I am talking about a global surrender amids the chaos. [addsig]



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Posted by Natus on Fri Apr 8th at 9:42pm 2005

what if the combine is actually another lifeform, taking shape as a toilet, and then hiding in bathrooms...think about that one
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Posted by rival on Fri Apr 8th at 10:34pm 2005

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"Sounds good in theory, but how do you get a coordinated surrender in less than seven hours? I am talking about a global surrender amids the chaos"

How long after the Black Mesa incident did the combine invade. they might have been a couple a weeks leaving time for all the aliens to ravage the hell out of the population so that when the combine did invade there werent many humans left for the world leaders to have responsibilty for cause theres not many left in HL2 when gordon comes along

combine are telepathic or so i heard somewhere i think it was the strategy guide but anyway they could wack up the minds of the soldiers thus diminishing our chances

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Posted by Dred_furst on Fri Apr 8th at 11:38pm 2005

? quote:
what if the combine is actually another lifeform, taking shape as a toilet, and then hiding in bathrooms...think about that one


ever watched carefully in the teleporter incident in hl2, seen what breen was talking to on the monitor? thats a real combine. they enslave races to do the killing for them, hence the combine soldiers are humans that have been taken to nova prospekt and been "reprogrammed".
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Posted by Natus on Sat Apr 9th at 12:29am 2005

well http://photobucket.com/albums/v685/natus/?action=view&current=combine.jpg

says that im holding on to the toilet theory

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Posted by Andrei on Sat Apr 9th at 9:54am 2005

We hail the combine advisor (*bows*).

Now I've always wondered what is up with the stalkers. They looks as if they were once human. Humans that died ages ago and that had their corpses animated by some sort of life-sustainance system.
Oh, and if you want an idea on how the combile look like, examine the combine advisor model using hlmv.
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Posted by LAzerMANiac on Sat Apr 9th at 4:57pm 2005

stalkers are human beings who were experimented on on loads of depraved ways. Their organs were riped out and, yes, replaced by life sustaining systens. Also, their legs adn arms are amputated at the start of the conversio process, to prevent escape. Later on, they are replaces with crutches and other prosthetics.

/me has the HL Book Of Art.
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Posted by Push6 on Mon Apr 11th at 3:54pm 2005

damn, beat me to that.

Do buy the book if you get the chance, I found it very interesting and the concept art is great.
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Posted by Rof on Mon Apr 11th at 4:28pm 2005

The art book is indeed rather nice.

I especially like the stuff it reveals about the original plot of HL2 (involving the icebreaker and the air processor plant).

Also, the sketch maps of how some of the levels were designed. Interesting to see how the pro mappers do it, especially how they create good encounters in a single-player map.

And "Ivan the Space Biker" gave me the giggles.
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Posted by Andrei on Mon Apr 11th at 4:39pm 2005

What does the book say about headcrab evolution? smiley
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Posted by Cassius on Mon Apr 11th at 6:19pm 2005

Actually, Xen aliens wouldn't be a factor. Don't you remember the G-Man's speech end of HL1? The American military went to Xen and took control of it after Nihilianth's death. Black Mesa itself was presumably nuked - but if not, that would make the existence of Vortigons, Ichthyosaurs, and Headcrabs in HL2 a lot more plausible, though I suppose they could have reappeared on Earth by other means.

The Seven Hour War, I assume, went like this: Combine detects volatile portal activity on distant planet; Combine, always in search of new species to assimilate, decides to invade; in the course of seven hours, Combine strikes hundreds of thousand-foot tall towers into the Earth's crust, deploys endless waves of super-advanced armor (and, I assume, uses them - City 17 is one of the "last remaining population centers" by the time of HL2), and says, "Hey, Earth, why don't you give up?" "Okay," says Earth.





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Posted by DrGlass on Mon Apr 11th at 6:29pm 2005

do you have a link to where I can buy this book?

edit:is this it?
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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Mon Apr 11th at 6:29pm 2005

Potential Opposing Force spoiler:

I'm pretty sure its revealed at the end of Opposing Force that Black Mesa was nuked. Hence the blinding flash of white light.

So... maybe there were no Xen aliens rampaging around Earth before the Combine showed up. But what about places like Ravenholm? Were they just victims of Headcrab missiles fired by the combine? What about Antlions? They seem more like wildlife now then tools of the Combine. In fact, it seems like Earth has been infested with all types of monsters that the Combine doesn't have control over. The ichthyosaur for instance.

Was Earth untouched and unaware of any problems until the Seven Hours War?

Does the HL Book of Art have anything on this?




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Posted by rival on Mon Apr 11th at 6:38pm 2005

i would be almost sure that random aliens would have been rampaging across earth thats why the war was only seven hours (or at least part of the reason)

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Posted by DrGlass on Mon Apr 11th at 7:02pm 2005

? quote:
Potential Opposing Force spoiler:

I'm pretty sure its revealed at the end of Opposing Force that Black Mesa was nuked. Hence the blinding flash of white light.

So... maybe there were no Xen aliens rampaging around Earth before the Combine showed up. But what about places like Ravenholm? Were they just victims of Headcrab missiles fired by the combine? What about Antlions? They seem more like wildlife now then tools of the Combine. In fact, it seems like Earth has been infested with all types of monsters that the Combine doesn't have control over. The ichthyosaur for instance.

Was Earth untouched and unaware of any problems until the Seven Hours War?

Does the HL Book of Art have anything on this?


There is a really great website that answers alot of these questions, cant recall the name though...

There was something called the portal storm that dropped all kind of xen/other alien wild life on earth. It was kinda like what happend in black mesa (head crabs popping out of no where) but all over the earth. With all these crazy life forms running a muck all over the earth humans started moving to urban areas where they could be better protected from these new threats. Then the combine attacked. I would guess that they said "ok earth, give up" we said "oh noes we wont" they then blow up France and we say "0wned! ok we give up"
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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Mon Apr 11th at 7:03pm 2005

That portal storm idea makes a lot of sense to me.




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Posted by rival on Mon Apr 11th at 7:08pm 2005

could you try and get that web site drglass?

plz






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