you know, there's plenty of 'hetrosexual activities' that i find equally disturbing, so i suppose i must be really f**ked up.

on a side note of fickle flaming, only a fool could come to the conclusion that i'm a bigot by what i've said here. but then again, docs are world famous for knowing better, therefor negating the need to actually listen to what anyone else is saying.

racism is form of prejudiced, prejudism is not racism.. you are comparing apples to oranges satch.

bottomline on this, as far as i am concerned.. the topic is moot now, and i refuse to discuss it further for the simple fact that some people are even more close minded about pro-homo, than anyone who ever lived is about anti-homo.

people like you satch are just to convinced that you are correct and cannot see the forest for the trees. people may not chose to be born homosexual, but they damned sure chose to act on the animal urges they have when they find out. i get so tired of people telling me that they cannot help themselves.. the same tired excuse is used for post partum, pedophilia,alcoholism, and a whole s**tload of other mental illnesses. denial is an evil thing, and anyone whom thinks that homosexuality does not originate in the brain is a fool. and since it does originate from that location, and it is a defect, it can be aligned with all those other illnesses without biased, or prejudiced intent.

i still firmly believe it is a taught thing, i will never waver from that viewpoint, but assuming i am mistaken and it is a born trait, it has got to be FIXABLE!.. i assume that someone in the world believes that and that someday some one will discover exactly where the event occurs and fixes it in the womb.

being pro-homo is not a bad thing, being anal about it is. and people whom go to the other end of the spectrum in their support are just as wrong as the people you say you dislike..

all i can say is, "welcome to my world, cause now YOU ARE THE BAD GUY TOO!"

thus the saga ends..

/ me bows out, you cannot converse with such closed minds.

*sighs*

if i avoid a thread i am passionate about, i feel discriminated against. If i comment within a thread i am passionate about, but happen to be in the minority, i feel discriminated against.

so lets see here, am i the prick because i opted to express myself, in spite of it being in a poor light, or am i a prick because i could have kept my ill received opinions to myself?

sometimes i kick myself in the ass for not opting to just shut up. you cannot argue with close minded people and i am stupid enough to never learn that sad fact.

so i guess, its me who is the prick. i should have told you what you wanted to hear.

just once i would like to have a discussion where the other side can see both view points as clearly as i do :/

tell me straight up, have you ever met anyone who said homosexuality was right? i mean said exactly those words. "homosexuality is right"

i have met people who accept it, i have met people who tolerate it, i have met people whom do not care one way or another to have an opinion, but i have never ever met anyone who said its "right"

given that it is accepted by a vast percentage does not make it right. furthermore, given that it is unaccepted by an even larger majority does not necessarily make it wrong either. my point in all this is, just because it is not wrong to some, does not make it right by any definition of the word "right"

i can tell you this honestly, homosexuality is for the most part ONLY tolerated.. no one anywhere in the world looks at their new born children and hopes they are gay, not even gay parents.

people whom think that they are accepted are in denial about their true position in the world.. people weigh the options and decide "what should i do about it" ... in a perfect setting, the person decides that they love, or care for the person more than they are offended by them and the acceptance comes in where they accept their decision to tolerate the action/situation.

in a less perfect situation, the person decides that the pro's and con's balance out and they keep associating with the gay person.

in a situation like mine, if my loved one decides its time to be gay, they are on their own.. period. no discussing it, now nothing. they know in advance, that their decision did not involve me when they made it, it should not involve me afterward either. this may not prevent the situation from occurring, but then again it may.

bottom line, i want you to tell me exactly, you heard the words, "its right"

BTW, you really,really need a spell checker. :P

I should've quoted back then. I wasn't calling you a bigot. I did read your post carefully, and you're rather reasonable.

I once got told by a teacher that everyone is racist because we subliminally judge people differently based on their race - i.e., if we saw two huge black guys walking behind us, we'd be more inclined to cross the street than if they were white. Unfortunately, the example is, in many cases, true, but the conclusion, I told her, is bulls**t - prejudice is making the concious decision to think worse of someone based on the way they've chosen to live their lives, unless that way seriously interferes with your own.

The point? - no, I don't feel "rosy" inside to see homosexuals displaying their affections. Simply because I was raised to think homosexuality is evil, I, against logic, have a knee-jerk averse reaction to the sight. But that's not prejudice, because I can't help that I feel that way; it would be prejudiced were I unable to see past it and recognize that homosexuals, as people, have just as much a right to love someone of their own gender as I do the opposite; and, as with every person, to be free of my and society's judgement of their lives so long as they aren't really hurting anybody. And to that same extent, Orph, you are more than welcome to hold whatever opinions you damn well please.

Nobody says you have to love homosexuality. I will say that it is not good to forget human compassion for anyone, even your enemies, whoever they may be. I will say that if you are willing to claim that you have the right to believe and live the way you like without explanation, then homosexuals, too, have that right.

you and i have locked horns a time or two, but can you say that we have not become if not better friends, we have at least reached an understanding of companionism?

anyways, be it known, i am fully cognizant that my views are not popular.. but please stop asking me to explain.. its very bad, even worse than bigotry.

even if you disagree with that, at least show me the same respect that i show others. when i ask "why", then you may ask as well.

So, what's actually wrong with being homosexual then, given that it doesn't hurt anyone and we live in a (supposedly) free world?