Second Coming of Jesus
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Re: Second Coming of Jesus
Posted by G4MER on Thu Apr 28th at 1:19pm 2005


? quoting Leperous
I think it's crazy, but it's a free world (so much for not making idols), plus I've seen worse or the same done before... I'm sure Orph will love this "Gay American" action figure

I was so sure this was the doll that Lep had linked too..

http://www.8bm.com/diatribes/volume01/diatribes013/diatribes250-270/diatribes252.htm

Who recalls the hooplah this got on the many news stations? And this next link is just for ORPH..

http://www.beproud.com/index.php?cat=Gifts&aisle=2036

What ever you do do not click the ( anatomical detail ) Button.. Dont do it. ( WARNING ADULT IN NATURE - REMOVE LINK IF QUESTIONABLE )

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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Apr 28th at 1:25pm 2005


Warning: moisture content in pants may increase dramatically if you click the anatomic button above.

/me goes and changes diaper.... again smiley

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Posted by thursday- on Thu Apr 28th at 3:02pm 2005


DAMN IT'S AS FAT AS HIS DAMN ARM!
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Posted by fishy on Thu Apr 28th at 3:11pm 2005


well if that's typically what gay guys are all about, then it's no surprise that i'm straight.

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Posted by Monqui on Thu Apr 28th at 3:15pm 2005


Oh, and FYI- the term Pagan derives itself from Latin, and literally back then meant country-side or country-dweller. In modern times, the term pagan has come to only encompass a religion that isn't a direct subsect of any of the major religions (Judaism, Christianity, or Islam). AKA, a religion that existed within a small sub-sect of a population living out in the boondocks.

So no, not all religions are "pagan," orph :P

And honestly, who the hell in their right mind would buy that action figure, Lep? I can't tell who they're trying to market the damn thing towards, but it's failing on all counts. [addsig]




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Posted by MadMan on Thu Apr 28th at 3:21pm 2005


who is crazy enough to make jesus dolls anyways

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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Apr 28th at 3:22pm 2005


? quoting Monqui
Oh, and FYI- the term Pagan derives itself from Latin, and literally back then meant country-side or country-dweller. In modern times, the term pagan has come to only encompass a religion that isn't a direct subsect of any of the major religions (Judaism, Christianity, or Islam). AKA, a religion that existed within a small sub-sect of a population living out in the boondocks.

So no, not all religions are "pagan," orph

/me whispers to Monkee..

So saith the preferred religions when Christianity first arrived smiley

Pagan is in the eye of the beholder my friend.

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Posted by Spartan on Thu Apr 28th at 4:11pm 2005


I think the Jesus doll is stupid. I hate it when people use religion to make money.

P.S. For the past few days almost every thread has turned into an argument over homosexuality. Lets just drop it. It gets old.

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Posted by Leperous on Thu Apr 28th at 5:27pm 2005


This isn't an arguement over homosexuality, it's everyone ridiculing the stupidest action figures ever created, either because they're offensive to the people they're trying to portray or because they're just, er, stupid.



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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Apr 28th at 5:32pm 2005


? quoting Leperous
This isn't an arguement over homosexuality, it's everyone ridiculing the stupidest action figures ever created, either because they're offensive to the people they're trying to portray or because they're just, er, stupid.

I was thinking the same thing, but coming from me it would sound absurd. when you consider my stance on the topic in question i couldn't think of a way to say what you just typed.

my thanx.

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Posted by azelito on Thu Apr 28th at 5:57pm 2005


On topic about the jesus doll -
Christianity is losing its popularity. Kids, where I come from, dont believe in God. They should sell him with a jet-pack or a jesusmobile though, no kid wants an action figure that lacks action.
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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu Apr 28th at 6:03pm 2005


The NEW Jesus Action Figure! Now with the power to forgive 70x7 times!
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Posted by pepper on Thu Apr 28th at 7:46pm 2005


But thats not all!!

If you buy the 'king herod' expansion you can make it hover above water!!
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Posted by Mephs on Sat Apr 30th at 2:41am 2005


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I am tired of Jesus being portrayed as a Caucasian. his race was far from white.


Then why, if he might be one of the 'lower' races, does it pain you to think of anything other than caucasian beliefs?

I mean, why is a black Jesus ok, but not a gay Jesus?


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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Apr 30th at 7:50am 2005


? quoting Mephs

? quote:
I am tired of Jesus being portrayed as a Caucasian. his race was far from white.



Then why, if he might be one of the 'lower' races, does it pain you to think of anything other than caucasian beliefs?

I mean, why is a black Jesus ok, but not a gay Jesus?


first, if you are talking to me personally, you have never ever seen me say "lower race. its truly insulting to even suggest it.

secondly assuming Jesus was real, he could very well have been of the gay persuasion, i dunno. his actions tend to lend credence to such an outlook.

thirdly WTF does that have to do with my comment at all? Americans have literally "Whitened" Jesus. his portrails have all drifted away from his origin and now is a classic White version of his former self.

Anywho's, I take offense to any comments that suggest that I am racist in any way. Please refrain from quoting me, out of context. smiley

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Posted by G4MER on Sat Apr 30th at 8:08am 2005


? quoting Mephs

? quote:
I am tired of Jesus being portrayed as a Caucasian. his race was far from white.



Then why, if he might be one of the 'lower' races, does it pain you to think of anything other than caucasian beliefs?

I mean, why is a black Jesus ok, but not a gay Jesus?


One: Orph Never said anything about them being a lower race. And Second it What does this have to do with a freakin DOLL?

As for the gay thing.. In Jesus Times from what I have read there was no real GAY ideal back then. If you thought that boy was cute and you had sex.. it was sex.. nothing more. Gay is a Modern Term.

Orph just said he was tired of people portraying Jesus as some White Boy from Texas.. instead of the Jewish person he was. He is looking at it from the historic point of view.. what the people in that region looked like, compaired to the modern Jesus we have today, the two just dont mesh.

*EDIT Doh looks like Orph also got to this one... lol sorry.

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Posted by Mephs on Sun May 1st at 2:47am 2005


My point was Orphs previous posts (older threads, referring to his homophobia) surely if you suddendly paint Jesus other than the nice European chap the Vatican/Other supposed Christian churches like to think he is, you're losing the main point of you white, European religion.

And YES they are...and if you DON'T agree you aren't part of the church in question (wide-sweeping, but fact) if you don't believe EXACTLY what your church does, you are NOT a member.
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Posted by Orpheus on Sun May 1st at 7:47am 2005


Meph's, am I supposed to care that they rewrote Jesus white? Am I supposed to believe that, truly?

Sounds to me like you are describing a dictatorship, not a religion. but, whatever floats your boat.

I still think its not very accurate to use Gays as an example to prove your point either. I obviously cannot make you believe that but thats something you will have to work out for yourself as my conscience is clear on all counts.

As I said before, Gays get far more attention than they deserve, stop bringing them into every conversation as if they were the perfect example to prove all things by. smiley

You want to use a "people/group" to use, try the American Indians, try the Jews, try... the uneducated... they deserve it more and they make you look better for doing it.

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Posted by G4MER on Sun May 1st at 8:53am 2005


Why is it when someone does not approve of something they must fear it. I could care less if your getting a 6 inch weiner up the poop shute nightly Mephs.. Thats not what this is about. What you do in the privacy of your bedroom/home is your business.

But since you seem to want to start something out of nothing, then here ya go.. My view points on gayness.

It is un-natural for two men to have sex with one another.. they are both Tab A's, Givers of the Intercourse. Where as it is perfectly natural for two women to have sex with one another because they are the slots B's or the reciever of the act. Now I am speaking of Sexual parts here, not butt holes and mouths and belly buttons or your eye socket.. only the sexual organs.. Tha Anus is not a sexual organ, even though many people seem to think it is.

Now Mephs if you and your boyfreind wanna play hide the salami, thats all on you, but dont try and force me to belive its ok, or right. In America you have the right to have sexual contact with any other consentual humen of legal age you want, as long as you dont infringe on my rights to do it. If I am standing in your bedroom and you start to have gay sex, then I have the option to leave or pull out a cam corder.

Am I a Homophobe.. no.. I just dont agree wth your life style. Hey My Wife was an Exotic Dancer, she danced on stage and made mucho money, and to some that is just not acceptable.. do I run around with a T-Shirt and a mega phone making screaming Bull-poopy of how your a StripperPhobe. Uhn no im not..

As for Religion, I am not a Christian.. I am a Druid/Pagen, Something the Christians based there entire beliefs on. For Proof check out this link: http://spl.haxial.net/ ( I dont agree with everyting he says.. but its close ) This is just one of many resources I have read and checked.. and I dont base everying I believe just off this one web page..

If you want to know more of what I believe check out my bitching blog.. ( http://www.livejournal.com/users/moneyshotz/17495.html )

Besides all that Mephs, it would seem you have a personal issue with Orph and try to just pick something with him any chance you get, whats that all about?

Now can we get this back on topic.. This is all about a stupid Doll.. Thank you..

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Posted by Leperous on Sun May 1st at 9:32am 2005


Jesus couldn't be homosexual because it's a sin in Jewish/Christian culture, and half the point in his story/existence/whatever is that he was sinless?

And mephs, why on earth are you playing the "lower race" flame card? No-one ever said anything about non-caucasians being lower in anyway, and I'm sure that despite controversy here very few people here are racist...






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