What the hell is wrong with this stupid country?!
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Posted by Agent Smith on Wed May 4th at 9:45pm 2005


Jamies School Dinners.
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Posted by $loth on Thu May 5th at 6:41am 2005


Yea but what is actually being done by the government, I know about JSD I watched it all the way through.
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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Thu May 5th at 6:57am 2005


Sloth, WTF does the government have to do with what people eat? I'd say that's a pretty damn personal choice.

Free Uni? My education cost 20,000+ USD/year... I don't know what you guys are bitching about.

To be honest, most of the listed woes sound kind of petty... a ban on hunting... too few houses? you live on a tiny island with millions of people. Do the math. That sort of thing is only going to get worse irrespective of the government.

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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Thu May 5th at 7:08am 2005


Jamies shool dinners was excellent tbh, Reminds me of infant shool. We used to get good food in our schools in thsi country back then you know =/
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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu May 5th at 12:51pm 2005


you don't even want to know what my college charges me... bleh. and i'm starting to think i'd learn more just going out and having life experiences.
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Posted by G4MER on Thu May 5th at 1:01pm 2005


We left Europe for a reason. [addsig]



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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu May 5th at 1:03pm 2005


I'm not in Europe!
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Posted by holligan on Thu May 5th at 1:16pm 2005


Yup You know this country is going tits up when i have to wait nearly 2 weeks to see my G.P,unless I'm dying.The rights for people who live in this country are nearly non-exsistent,you have to be a refugee to get anything.I lost my job recently and went to the job centre to get myself re-trained and got told because I dont have a criminal record and because my first language is English,I cannot apply for any re-training until I have been signing on for 18 months.If Blair gets in again,we will look as mis-understood and stupid as the yanks who voted that idiot Bush back in office(no offence)

In the recent Iraq elections 61% of the population went to vote with the risk of being shot or blown-up hanging over them.I would be surprised if the U.K get anywhere near that figure.

Anyway im off to vote for Lib-dems,maybe a wasted vote but I'll be buggered by a pig before i vote for any of the others.




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Posted by Cassius on Thu May 5th at 2:41pm 2005


Ain't no black in the Union Jack!

What's that extremely racist anti-immigration party that's running?





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Posted by Leperous on Thu May 5th at 2:50pm 2005


The BNP? (British Nationalist Party) They're mainly about having inner-cities back, since many of them now have large Indian/Pakistani/Muslim/whatever populations, but yes, they are a piss-poor excuse for a political party. The only people they will ever appeal to is people who've been somehow attacked or hurt by ethnic minorities in this country. BUT we do live in a democracy (er, of sorts) and they even get free air-time on the main radio/TV stations, along with other large enough parties.



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Posted by Loco on Thu May 5th at 3:50pm 2005


I like the fact that the NF (National Front) apparently criticised the BNP for not being racist enough. It seems to reduce both parties to absurdity.
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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu May 5th at 11:30pm 2005


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/05/international/europe/05cnd-britain.html?hp&ex=1115352000&en=8398caee88c0fe86&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Sorry Lep smiley
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Posted by Electric Warrior on Fri May 6th at 6:06am 2005


I'm not sorry, in fact I'm extremely happy that the Labour Party has won an historic third term in office, but then again I'm old enough to remember the eighteen years of misery under the conservatives.

I now feel a lot more secure about our economy, and not so worried about being able to continue to pay back the mortgage on my home.

As for corruption, well there may have been some people in the Labour party who used their positions to make personal gains, but compared to the many crooked sleazeballs the tories had when they ran the country, they are saints.

Do I get a ban for having opposing views to the #1 member?





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Posted by G4MER on Fri May 6th at 6:14am 2005


Heck I hardly understand the US politics.. forget trying to understand the UK's. [addsig]



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Posted by antianticampersquad on Fri May 6th at 6:33am 2005






tis a shame.

me i voted conservatives.
why... becuase i dont like the hunting with dogs ban. and i dont like the ginger tosser from lib dem
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Posted by Loco on Fri May 6th at 7:11am 2005


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I'm not sorry, in fact I'm extremely happy that the Labour Party has won an historic third term in office, but then again I'm old enough to remember the eighteen years of misery under the conservatives.

I now feel a lot more secure about our economy, and not so worried about being able to continue to pay back the mortgage on my home.

As for corruption, well there may have been some people in the Labour party who used their positions to make personal gains, but compared to the many crooked sleazeballs the tories had when they ran the country, they are saints.

Do I get a ban for having opposing views to the #1 member?


Okay I really really try not to post about politics, but I was wondering if anyone shares the same views as me, so here goes.

The Conservatives were running the country eight years ago, and various references have been made by this government to things which happened fifteen years ago. Is it right that we should be looking this far back, especially when there have been so many Tory leadership changes? Similarly, if it is right, why don't we talk about the Winter of Discontent under Labour when everyone went on strike - scarily echoing the fuel strike we've had under this government and the fuel strike which was threatened to take place on May 3rd?

Sorry to be so argumentative, I just can't help but feel the focus of the Labour campaign ("don't let the tories in, they did something bad fifteen years ago") missed the point, and skipped serious current issues like education, crime (and particularly violent crime - 3000 per day), health etc.

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Posted by Leperous on Fri May 6th at 7:45am 2005


lol of course you don't get banned for voting Labour, though I think it's wrong that people keep saying "ooh 8 years ago..." Each to their own though, but I and many of my friends/family have been hurt by Labour's incompetence and short-sightedness, especially in the area of education and rural life. Loco, Labour have been quite coy about most of their issues such as tax and education, saying they're "going to wait" until after the election to see, which is why they keep attacking the Conservatives. Yes, Michael Howard was a part of that last Government, but he made some good and bad- like with everyone. Now, there is quite a clear divide here- look at an election map and you'll see how the South voted Conservative, and the North and some cities voted Labour.

If you thought the 70's/80's were "years of hell" you should ask yourself why this was, and what someone else would have done differently and better- the government really does not have that much control over the economy, they can't really "do a USA" and ban imports for other countries to protect their own in the fact of international trade agreements In fact, if you want to go further back, how about arguing that the Labour government before Thatcher stuffed up the economy, and as a result many of our manufacturing etc. industried failed? And my prediction for this term is the same- the economy will go downhill, more standards will erode ("oooh 12 years ago..!") and they will only last 4 more years on their measly 36% of the vote

Now, I think the most disgusting aspect about this whole election is how the f**k George Galoway managed to get voted in for his "anti-war" stance. He's not anti-war, he's pro-Iraqi-government-pocket His interview with Paxman last night was hilarious, too.





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Posted by Loco on Fri May 6th at 8:32am 2005


Nice to see I'm not the only one on this site who reads private eye! smiley
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Posted by Electric Warrior on Fri May 6th at 2:36pm 2005


Thanks for your response Leperous, I'm pleased that you feel there is no need for any animosity between members for holding different political viewpoints.

On a personal note, I have several reasons for being happy with Labours win. For the first nine years of my working life I was in the army, where we were expected, if not brainwashed into having a conservative outlook on life, and I fell into that way of thinking along with the majoirity of my fellow soldiers. This was also at a time when Labour was in power and the recent troubles in Northern Ireland had just got started. The trade unions had a vice like grip on the country and the economy was in a terrible state. I left the army in 1976 and my political views changed somewhat, when I had the chance to experience real life outside the institution that was military life. When the conservatives did take power in the late seventies, they took on the unions and reduced their power, and that was in retrospect probably a good thing, although I naturally hated them at the time of the miners strikes, as my brother was a coal miner. Gradually though, they introduced a very selfish mindset throughout the eighties, which although encouraging entrepeneurship and business, left a lot off the less well of in our country worse off, and the sleaze and corruption became evident (Cecil Parkinson, John Redfield, Jeffrey Archer, Leslie Hamilton, Jonathon Aitken and many more).

I know Labour are not perfect, but I want to live in a more inclusive society that looks after everyone, not matter what their background, creed or racial ethnicity, physical ability or sexuality, and I believe that for the moment, they are the party to do that. I'm not that keen on Tony Blair, but I voted on policies not personalities.

As for the hunting with dogs issue, I have nothing against hunting per se, I just believe that if a species needs to be controlled, there are far more humane ways to do so, other than terrorising an animal to exhaustion to then be torn apart by a pack of dogs.

Oh, just an aside...I live in the south-east, a small red dot in a sea of blue!

Oops ranting on a bit here....sorry guys!

At least we are fortunate enough to be free to express our opinions without fear of persecution.






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