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Re: Episode III
Posted by Leperous on Sat May 7th at 7:01am 2005


? quoting Crono
The first two prequels aren't bad movies. You're biased and have terrible contrasting skills to say they are.

Er, and you're not biased since you like them... riiiiight. They are bad movies in some people's estimation- they're childish, commercial vehicles, with annoying characters, a generally "camp" feeling, and very little of anything that feels sinister or threatening in them. And I'm not "biased" or basing my opinion of what everyone else thinks- I liked the last two Matrix films, but I still don't think they were very good films! Do I like the original 3 either? Not terribly, but I can see that when they were released they would have been huge things.

Besides, being a sci-fi man myself, I think Star Wars was always a poor-mans sci-fi Universe- I would say it's just a fantasy, with lots of "future-retro" equipment lying around





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Posted by Crono on Sat May 7th at 9:19am 2005


Thanks for supporting my point ...

I'd suggest comparing Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Reloaded, and Revolutions as movies to other movies. They aren't "bad", they have a nice three act structure with well fleshed protagonists and antagonists with adequate conflict and underlying meaning. That doesn't classify bad really unless the films you compare them to are better films. What I say doesn't really matter because I'm not trying to change anyones opinion on this, I mean, the general "they suck" attitude is well in effect, that's fine, it's whomever's opinion. I'm not saying they're excellent films, but they're far from being "bad movies". I don't think I'd classify them with something like ?Catwoman? or ?Mansquito?, for example (something obviously bad).

The only reason, honestly, SW was ever popular is because they were classified as ?Sci Fi? instead of just films. I suppose as ?films? they are rather flimsy (even though they portray a very romantics story) However, if they are ?sci-fi? or something like that, the general conception is they're inheritly bad. Which means when something decent is made, it is over praised. Both Star Wars and The Matrix are an example of this (in fact, I don't even think I'd consider The Matrix to be a sci fi movie. Why isn't hyper-reality a genre?)Genre separation is messed up anyway and a completely different conversation.

Not concepts I'd ever expect anyone else besides myself to agree with.

It's just an opinion though. You don't have to agree with me, obviously.

Also, Pi is easiest left as Pi because in most calculations it'll probably cancel out (however most of my experience with this value is in physics which makes everything work out nicely ... just like the real world.) [addsig]




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Posted by rival on Sat May 7th at 12:38pm 2005


I was going to see it anyway i just wanted to know what you guys thought it was going be like. Plus i think that the guy who plays anakin in the second and third one it a complete s**t actor. (but im hoping he'll be better in Revenge of the Sith)

How the hell did that ancient Greek guy first worked out Pi anyway??





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Re: Episode III
Posted by Spartan on Sat May 7th at 1:11pm 2005


? quoting Tracer Bullet

I guess there are people in the world who don't know an irrational number when they see one.

Dope! Forgot it was irrational. Ok back on topic.

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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sat May 7th at 3:00pm 2005


Why people thought Episode 1 sucked:

1. Jar Jar was annoying as f**k (as well as the rest of that bastard race)
2. Anakin was annoying as f**k
3. The main characters had no likeable characteristics
4. The robot army and The Trade Federation were laughable excuses for bad guys
5. Trade Embargos? Diplomatic unrest? Oh noes!!1 Seriously, how is this at all interesting? If I wanted to watch old bastard politicians bitching at each other, I'll go watch parliament thank you very much.

Redeeming Features:

1. Kick ass battle scenes
2. Samuel Motherf**king Jackson

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...um.

Why people thought Episode 2 sucked:

1. Jar Jar was annoying as f**k, despite only being on screen for 30 seconds
2. Anakin was annoying as f**k
3. Boba Fett was annoying as f**k
4. Poor excuse for a love plot

Redeeming Features:

1. Kick ass battle scenes
2. Samuel Motherf**king Jackson

...

...yeah. As far as I'm concerned, the prequels were only interesting when something blew up.

IMO, of course.

That said, I am lookling forward to Ep. III, mainly because the trailer alone is better than both prequels put together.
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Posted by French Toast on Sat May 7th at 3:26pm 2005


The worst part of the new ones, was when Yoda fought. It was possibly the dumbest thing I have ever seen. He hobbled in, and then they threw him around the room, and then he hobbled back. That just angered me. I was born in 1991, and when my brother turned, maybe 7, my parents bought him the trilogy. I used to watch them once a day, and they're still my favourite movies. I think the new ones really really suck. Lucas is declining, and I think the only reason he is doing this last one is for personal reasons. I think he just wants to finish his double trilogy so he can say he has.

I also think they should release the originals on DVD, none of this digitally remastered crap.
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Posted by Crono on Sat May 7th at 8:11pm 2005


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I also think they should release the originals on DVD, none of this digitally remastered crap.


That'll never happen. Go find the laser discs. [addsig]




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Posted by omegaslayer on Sat May 7th at 8:28pm 2005


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I also think they should release the originals on DVD, none of this digitally remastered crap.


I have the originals on VHS, with comentary from George himself.

BTW there are these cartoons of the clone wars Here that are some what cool (IMO anyways), they play on cartoon network, and soon they are going to have a marithon next weekend for all of them (all 25 10 min. episodes)
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Posted by Guessmyname on Sat May 7th at 9:45pm 2005


Its about time Lucas Arts made something good
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Posted by ding on Sat May 7th at 10:31pm 2005


Episode 4-6 = win.

I liked the battles in space. They are based on the air combats from WWII so a lot of action there. (Remember the Millenium Falcon's Laserturrets? They are like those machine guns of the B17 or equal airplanes)

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Posted by Forceflow on Sat May 7th at 10:46pm 2005


Ok, so Episode 4-5-6 were great
Episode 1 was a laugh
Episdoe 2 was OK

Let's hope episode 3 makes it all up for the prequels.

Also, I'm still hoping for Episode 7-8-9 based on the Thrawn Trilogy by Timothy Zahn. Excellent books.
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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sun May 8th at 12:42am 2005


I'm pretty sure George Lucas is looking forward to putting Star Wars behind him and move on to more Artsy / Risky films.
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Posted by Forceflow on Sun May 8th at 9:13am 2005


I didn't say Lucas should do it.
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Posted by rival on Sun May 8th at 8:25pm 2005


im only really looking forward to episode three bacause it just looks darker and more adult. i mean episode one just seemed like it was aimed at a young audience which i think it shouldnt have been.



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Posted by Natus on Sun May 8th at 9:01pm 2005


yeah, im hoping for some leg breakage and a lot of death(ness), and ofcourse lasers smiley
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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sun May 8th at 9:05pm 2005


I'm sure we'll see plenty of arms getting cut off.
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Posted by Y2kBen_2000 on Mon May 9th at 1:53pm 2005


My theory as to why 1 and 2 sucked is, as someone said before, the visuals. Episodes 4,5,6 were all done in a time were computer animation lacked and was very complex. Some much time was put intom makeing these almost cheesy modals fit into the movie that these cheesy modals actually made the movie great. Also, because of the harsh visuals, plot was accented around the visuals.

Episodes 1 and 2 flawed because they were made in a time period of easy manipulation of graphics programs, you could create almost anything in computer form these days. Because of this, they put less strain on making it all fit. Thus the effort around the computer visuals deminish and it just makes it feel less like Star Wars. Almost every piece of complex props were basically done in 3d, it drains from the creativity of modalers working days apon ened to create a perfect modal the "fits" with the scene. Thus my point.

Also, on a different subject. How anakin becomes so messed up, I believe h will become mortally wounded in the fight with Obi Won; thus, he gets all meesed up, needs mounds of machine to keep him alive, and, the thing we all love, a respirator to let hime breath.

By the way, I'm not a big Star Wars buff, I'm just a buff when it comes to movies, and visual media, with great plot and visuals.

Also, as a little factoid, it's said that Lucas got help from Spielberg who is co-Director, this time throughout the entire movie; instead of several small parts.

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Posted by Fjorn on Mon May 9th at 7:33pm 2005


Obi threw anakin into a lava pit

He survived, but he needs his suit to keep him alive
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Posted by Orpheus on Mon May 9th at 8:47pm 2005


? quoting satchmo

I was alive when "Return of the Jedi" came out in theater,

? quoting Crono
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. I was born like two months after Jedi came out.


You asswipes, you make me feel so f**king old.

I suppose that I shouldn't tell you that I watched movies like "The GodFather" and "High Plains Drifter" at the drive in, when they were new/first released.

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Posted by Y2kBen_2000 on Tue May 10th at 1:16pm 2005


? quoting Fjorn
Obi threw anakin into a lava pit

He survived, but he needs his suit to keep him alive

As I said, I'm not a Star Wars buff, just a "visual media with good plot" buff. aka Movies, video games, and good quality anime.

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