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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 12th at 12:36am 2005


Whats your other haunts, and post some names of some fantastic HL2DM maps here.

I will have to create a list, but I have seen some top notch releases of late.

I also would like to ease the acquisition process by starting this thread. I have hopes that we can each contribute at least some names to seek. a couple screens wouldn't hurt either. (of the 100k variety please.) smiley

Please post the IP address of your other favorite servers for us to add to our fav list. smiley

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Posted by French Toast on Thu May 12th at 12:44am 2005


Actually... when I play DM, I do only frag the SP server and SP maps. I don't play much, I'm more of a Natural Selection guy.
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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 12th at 1:04am 2005


? quoting French Toast
Actually... when I play DM, I do only frag the SP server and SP maps. I don't play much, I'm more of a Natural Selection guy.

I ain't saying that I'd come find you, but perhaps others might if they knew where.. post the IP.

[EDIT] Will wonders never cease?? I actually found a killbox i might venture to say, "I enjoy".. its still a box, but it has so many things inside it that it can be overlooked, to a point.

If you get time, you killbox lovers, play the map called "fy_iceworld_sim_v5"

yup its that awful name, but i saw nothing "Icy" about the map at all. /methinks someone is cashing in on the name to get iceworld lovers to frag it. *shrugs* I dunno, but its unique enough that you can overlook its strange layout.

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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu May 12th at 1:46am 2005


I liked the remake of dm_lambda_bunker I came across. Don't have an IP for the server, but you guys should check it out if you get a chance. It's faithful to the original.
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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 12th at 2:05am 2005


? quoting Addicted to Morphine
I liked the remake of dm_lambda_bunker I came across. Don't have an IP for the server, but you guys should check it out if you get a chance. It's faithful to the original.

Silly rabbit, trix are for kids smiley

that map is here, at the snarkpit, and so is the author. look it up smiley

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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu May 12th at 2:45am 2005


My mistake, I didn't even think to search for it! Before I recommend any other maps I'll make sure they're not already here.
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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 12th at 8:09am 2005


You know, when I posted this I fully expected at least 100 maps by now. (nearing the 8 hour mark)

Has HLDM really gone to the dogs, or are our members just that petty as to not bother posting about the maps they like to play?

When HL1 was out, my maps folder was like 4 gigs. Yeah it had a s**tload of mapping crap in there but a fair portion was good old .BSP's.

Anywho's, I almost regret posting this thread now. I really didn't want to know this bit of information about my fellow members. :/

/me goes back to bed, before I really get grumpy.

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Posted by Dark Tree on Thu May 12th at 8:42am 2005


ok...my fav map right now is dm_big_traps_final or something like that. It can be found on [LOLOBUBU]'s server @ 213.251.144.43:27040 or at The One and Only Doghouse (24.131.224.183:27015). Also at the Dog House is Wall-Mart_v4 which is basically a big parking lot with walmart, subway, gear, and some other stores. It is your one-stop frag and shop! Yes Wall-Mart is spelled wrong for 'legal' reasons.

Also, another great map with tons of secrets is dm_mayan_sanctuary. It is a HUGE map with a big temple and great outdoors area. The map can be found at The Santuary UK. The Santuary UK has a good sleugh of maps, too, as well as dm_castle_overload...a port of the hl1dm map, with better textures and some optimizations. Another map found on that server is mayan_sanctuary_reloaded. Which is a completely different map from the similarilaly named map. It is beautiful in parts...PLENTY of secrets and great connectivity....especially if you know which walls to open smiley

I would first suggest: dm_mayan_sancuary, then sanctuary_reloaded. Big Traps is great novelty fun as it has: a chamber which fills with gas untill you are dead, a room full of spinning lasers that burn you into a crisp if you touch them (it IS possible to live through it if you know their pattern), a pit which a big wall crunches you, a room wheres spikes kill you, a big rolling ball trap (which is the highlight of the map), a huge maze and other goodies.

Wall-Mart is nothing special, but worth a look for fun. They keep updating the map, so it may get better.

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Posted by Agent Smith on Thu May 12th at 10:00am 2005


Is it Christmas already .

To be honest Orph I don't find myself playing much HL2DM, and especially not on any servers other than those in Australia and the SnarkPit (thats only when other pitters are on). I play a fair bit of DOD as I'm in an Australian clan (Buried Alive Rulz), and have been playing CS: Source a bit lately, though its really annoying with those crappy hit boxes. Again I play these mainly on Australian servers.
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Posted by ReNo on Thu May 12th at 1:02pm 2005


I'm not really drawn to HL2DM much at the moment unfortunately smiley I only really play when we have a match, and I didn't even to remember about that last week smiley
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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 12th at 2:05pm 2005


This is sad when you think about it. I honestly think it has more to do with the weaponry that the hitbox bug. I cannot speak for everyone, but I personally hate that gravity gun and the tendency to fill a map with items for its use. People just don't long to frag anymore, and I think its the lack of quality weapons.

I remember sharing maps with everyone for HL1, it seems the only person here that I share this fondness for is Juim. Most of the best maps I have came from his server.

*sighs*

oh well, perhaps I will just keep looking on my own. I would suggest that some of you stymied for ideas, go server hopping. There are some fantastic maps being released. Apparently, Snarkpit hasn't yet cornered the market on "Best" mappers out there.

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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu May 12th at 2:17pm 2005


The map of the month over at interlopers looks pretty nice and it seems to have been well received although I haven't played it yet.

It's called dm_fallout, made by a game called ShaDoW. Here's some pictures and a DL : http://forum.interlopers.net/viewtopic.php?t=2794

And to be honest, I don't play that much DM. I prefer team games with objectives. DoD, CS, and TFC all do it for me. However, sometimes it is fun to frag on DM maps to blow off steam.
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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 12th at 2:29pm 2005


You know what I want. A true "Last man standing" Mod.

HLDM has just way to much emphasis on total kills. No real time is spent on skill. Hence the killbox craze. You do not know (or maybe you do) how many times i hear some crybaby complain about the lack of items. "This is boring" or "Where is everything, I can't find enough ammo?"

If people were forced to use stalking and hunting skills in a game to remain alive to the end to win, that would be so much the better.

Also, to prevent camping techniques degrading the fun to ZERO, you would need to place a total weapon strip over the map so that every few minutes you would be forced to move out into the open to get more.

I could just imagine a game of campers.. "You gonna hide all day?" "you first, chicken", "Am not" "are too"..

The only way a mod of this type could work would be to force people out. In the end though, I feel that it would be the all time best "Bragging Rights" mod out there.. People always talk about CS as if it were special, but just imagine claiming to have won Blah.Blah amount of last man standing rotations. smiley

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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu May 12th at 2:50pm 2005


I think one of the reasons CS is so popular (and one of the reasons I always come back to it) is that every round is in effect a little game of "Last Man Standing." There really isn't a feeling like being outnumbered 5 to 1 and then coming out victorious. There's a tension in that situation that I rarely feel during a game of deathmatch. The only thing that comes close to that is when there's a frag cap and you're neck and neck with a couple people and its a sprint to see who reaches 100 frags first.
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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 12th at 2:57pm 2005


I am not truly versed in CS, but every time I play its always just a glorified HLDM.. No real "Team" in it. you have the "cans", and "cannots" completely at odds with each other.

If it were truly team based, you would have the cans, promoting the cannots to be better and winning through... "teamwork"

All I ever see/hear is the "elite" browbeating the n00b's.

Anywho's, I have no interest in a mod that doesn't "force" you to play at your best. For all its faults, HLDM comes the closest to doing that. If you subtract the times you die, from you kills, you can get a fairly accurate account of someones skill level. CS? I don't see that at all, or worse, for a team game, thats ALL I see happening. smiley

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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu May 12th at 3:09pm 2005


Well, for CS you can either play in public servers where you will rarely ever see teamwork, or you can play in leagues with a clan. They are extremely different experiences. CS in pubs usually boils down to deathmatch, but clan matches are another matter entirely. All the faults you've listed about CS don't exist on the competative scene (except for some egoism and too much pride from some clans).

But even pub play I find superior to HLDM, and it's not because I think I'm playing a team game. It's because when I kill someone it's more satisfying because I know they just had to spend money to buy their guns and equipment, and now they're sitting out for the rest of the round, watching me and others play it out. When you're the last one left, people on your team are undoubtedly watching you play (often through the first person perspective) and the feeling of your every move "being watched" is pretty exciting.

And to be honest, I feel like there is more strategy going on. While DM definitely takes a lot of skill because you have to have great aim, great reactions, and a good route through the level, I find that the route you take in CS is more than just what weapons are available along the way, but also where it puts you in relation to the enemy and your objective.

To each his own I guess, and while CS doesn't appeal to everyone I have a feeling that if you ever wanted to play a game of CS and you had someone you knew by your side, sweeping rooms with you, and covering your back as you defused the bomb, you'd see where the appeal lies. I don't know if you even have it on your computer (I doubt it) but I'd be happy to play some rounds with you with the hope that you'd enjoy yourself a little bit in having a real teammate around.
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Posted by habboi on Thu May 12th at 3:59pm 2005


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Silly rabbit, trix are for kids

Family guy heh smiley

When HL2DM first came out I was looking for maps that allowed you to drive in those cool buggies and I found some cool ones!

I did notice however a map name that I am sure you will recognise:

dm_sdk_vehicles

Ring any bells? It's the sdk map by Valve but with one twist it had no cars :/ BUT there was something in it that truly amazed me and makes me like it so much:

I just noticed I have no screenshots of it :/ So I will just tell you...
The reason I was amazed by it was because it had this huge tower with an elevator and lots of stairs. It was very cool to shoot a crossbow at someone who was at the top of the tower and watch him as he is shocked and falls to the ground smiley

The tower isn't some crappy square one but a rather nice looking round one with great textures.
I just love it!

Another map I like is dm_lakeside which I can't seem to find on the servers anymore...I only played it once and it was pretty cool smiley

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Posted by SnarkSephiroth on Thu May 12th at 4:23pm 2005


? quoting Addicted to Morphine
Well, for CS you can either play in public servers where you will rarely ever see teamwork, or you can play in leagues with a clan. They are extremely different experiences. CS in pubs usually boils down to deathmatch, but clan matches are another matter entirely. All the faults you've listed about CS don't exist on the competative scene (except for some egoism and too much pride from some clans).

But even pub play I find superior to HLDM, and it's not because I think I'm playing a team game. It's because when I kill someone it's more satisfying because I know they just had to spend money to buy their guns and equipment, and now they're sitting out for the rest of the round, watching me and others play it out. When you're the last one left, people on your team are undoubtedly watching you play (often through the first person perspective) and the feeling of your every move "being watched" is pretty exciting.

And to be honest, I feel like there is more strategy going on. While DM definitely takes a lot of skill because you have to have great aim, great reactions, and a good route through the level, I find that the route you take in CS is more than just what weapons are available along the way, but also where it puts you in relation to the enemy and your objective.

To each his own I guess, and while CS doesn't appeal to everyone I have a feeling that if you ever wanted to play a game of CS and you had someone you knew by your side, sweeping rooms with you, and covering your back as you defused the bomb, you'd see where the appeal lies. I don't know if you even have it on your computer (I doubt it) but I'd be happy to play some rounds with you with the hope that you'd enjoy yourself a little bit in having a real teammate around.

I agree with you completly. I am in a clan for CS:S called Egokillers. Gameplay on the pub server is completly different, then the gamplay when we lock the server and play as a team. Even when we are all pubin we use teamwork.

Orph I'd say you should play with Morphine and see that CS:S does actually have some good aspects. I'd even play with you guys just to play as a team.

I hope you consider it!

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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu May 12th at 5:03pm 2005


I remember playing a lot on the Egokillers TFC server. I was in a clan that was pretty friendly with yours.

I'm glad you agree with me too, it's nice to hear that I'm not crazy smiley
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Posted by Orpheus on Fri May 13th at 9:37am 2005


I am sorry guys, I truly have no interest in CS. Consider it a "once shy, twice bitten" type of thing.

Anywho's, back on topic. I have so many excellent maps now. Well they would have been excellent had they been Snarkpit members. These maps must had almost no feedback stages.

For instance, I have this prime Dam themed map. It has excellent frame rates, especially considering its grand scale. The problem is, ALL the weapons are in the sniper locations, with almost none anyplace else. The game play is so out of balance its awful. I just groan and mumble "If only they had asked me"

Some of my favorite maps are of the 2 on 2 variety, or 4 maximum type of maps. they are small but have a well balanced setup. Two that come to mind are "DM_Six" and "DM_Carousel" I think they are named. If you get a chance, check those out.

And to affirm an earlier post. I HIGHLY suggest DM_Mayan_Sanctuary" most excellent gameplay.

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