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Posted by DrGlass on Sun May 22nd at 10:51pm 2005

wow! nice CJ

ok lets clear some stuff up.

I want this project to be open to everyone. Some of the maps I have so far were made by people who arn't the best mappers, sure. They had a number of problems that they, as a novice mapper, would not catch.

Also, I think that the skill levels of each of the areas will only add to the mosaic. Players may not like the section, but they will see the contrast of "good" mappers and "not-so-good" mappers.

@cass, if you dont think his area isn't very good it will only make your area look better

Also, I am not taking applications on the forums! I just cant keep up with it, you have to show me that you are serious by sending me a very simple e-mail. If you cant do that then the mosaic may not be a good idea for you.

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Posted by Orpheus on Sun May 22nd at 10:55pm 2005

? quoting DrGlass

ok lets clear some stuff up.

OK, lets let "Me' clear things up. How would you like to be me and be the worse mapper on a team, yet in charge of the whole thing cause it was my brainstorm? THATS how it is with Spit 1.

i WASN'T RAINING ON THE PROJECT GUYS! I was only pointing out that everyone seems to be in a rush to get finished. Slow down, and smell the coffee.

Don't make me regret passing on sagely advice, it could always be... withheld. :/





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Posted by DrGlass on Sun May 22nd at 11:35pm 2005

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? quoting DrGlass
ok lets clear some stuff up.

OK, lets let "Me' clear things up. How would you like to be me and be the worse mapper on a team, yet in charge of the whole thing cause it was my brainstorm? THATS how it is with Spit 1.

i WASN'T RAINING ON THE PROJECT GUYS! I was only pointing out that everyone seems to be in a rush to get finished. Slow down, and smell the coffee.

Don't make me regret passing on sagely advice, it could always be... withheld. :/



nononon orph, I'm not upset I understand your advice and I'm happy your giving it.

I dont want people to rush to finish their map, but I'm not going to tell people that their area isn't "done" (unless it really isn't done). I say on the site that you can take as much time as you'd like, but if some one else finishes their area before you then you'll just have to wait a little longer to see your map in the next mosaic.

Also, I plan to be the person who puts it all together. I'll do the alpha testing and make sure I've gotten all the kinks out, baiscaly all I do to any map is make sure the gateways match up with the next area (for instance trapt has arch gateways and the next person may have square ones, I'd just make sure they blend well enough so easch of the gateways allow players to enter and exit.

I'm also thinking about (in a few months) putting the favorite areas together into the "best of" mosaic map.

Oh, also, personaly I think that if the mapper knows what he is doing a room of this size 1024x1024x512 could be finished in less than a week. I'm not sure how spit was done, but with mosaic its a very small undertaking for each member. Not to say that I dont want people to really put some love and care into their map but I made my area (area2) for the last mosaic in about 2 days, so I figure a week with some solid mapping time would be more than enough time for most mappers to come up with something quite good.

thanks for the concern and the support.

just incase anyone is wondering(I'll post this else where too): You dont need to rush! You map will get into the mosaic no matter when you finish it, take your time and make something you will be proud of.




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Posted by Trapt on Mon May 23rd at 9:41am 2005

Well, it's Monday night (aussie time anyway), and still nothing. Any news or updates?




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Posted by Madedog on Mon May 23rd at 10:07am 2005

It's Monday midday <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> GMT +2 hours <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> And NO news yet <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">



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Posted by Orpheus on Mon May 23rd at 10:13am 2005

Its 5 a.m Monday and, you two make my head hurt. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">



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Posted by Trapt on Mon May 23rd at 10:27am 2005

Ah, crap. Dr. Glass is from USA. I guess that means it'll be coming out Tuesday afternoon for me. :P




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Posted by DrGlass on Mon May 23rd at 10:33am 2005

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Ah, crap. Dr. Glass is from USA. I guess that means it'll be coming out Tuesday afternoon for me.


sucker! It compiles as I type, infact its done.

test, zip, post, enjoy




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Posted by Trapt on Mon May 23rd at 10:38am 2005

Awesome. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">


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Posted by Madedog on Mon May 23rd at 11:38am 2005

Cool <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">



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Posted by habboi on Mon May 23rd at 12:15pm 2005

Is it released yet?




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Posted by Trapt on Mon May 23rd at 12:30pm 2005

...

Well, do you see a thing saying "BETA IS OUT, HERE IS THE DOWNLOAD LINK"?




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Posted by Madedog on Mon May 23rd at 12:58pm 2005

<img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> I am not very sure it takes so much time to compile this... afterall he hasn't got all the pieces yet... so probably it _should_ be ready though...



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Posted by Orpheus on Mon May 23rd at 1:06pm 2005

Until a download link reaches my Pm's, I will just consider this map a figment of your collective imaginations. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/heee.gif">



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Posted by DrGlass on Mon May 23rd at 1:52pm 2005

The mosaic is ready (beta).

You can find it here




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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Mon May 23rd at 2:02pm 2005

? quoting DrGlass:
The mosaic is ready (beta).

You can find it here


HOT DOG!

Edit: Doc fixed it.




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Posted by habboi on Mon May 23rd at 2:34pm 2005

Works fine and I must say WELL DONE!

It flowed well and I liked the ideas!
Anyone want to host?





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Posted by Orpheus on Mon May 23rd at 2:39pm 2005

I have my niggles, but I will sit on them for now. I will do a proper critique later however.

Right now all I am gonna stress is, this is NOT a prefab factory guys. Stop relying on statics and such to give your area character. 99% of what I saw was disappointingly full of props. Architecture, stress architecture. The engine can handle so freaking much of it. If any one of you submits a box filled with props, you are letting the entire team down.

/sagely advice.





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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Mon May 23rd at 2:56pm 2005

/me is guilty.

Well -- I think this map is still in the beta stages and before we go hosting this and referring to it as a finished product I think we should go through and critique each others areas so that we can all improve. Orph pointed out the biggest problem with the mosaic work so far.

I'll be sure to post what I think about other areas in the stickied map thread.




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Posted by G4MER on Mon May 23rd at 3:12pm 2005

? quoting Orpheus
I have my niggles, but I will sit on them for now. I will do a proper critique later however.

Right now all I am gonna stress is, this is NOT a prefab factory guys. Stop relying on statics and such to give your area character. 99% of what I saw was disappointingly full of props. Architecture, stress architecture. The engine can handle so freaking much of it. If any one of you submits a box filled with props, you are letting the entire team down.

/sagely advice.

I strongly disagree with Orphus, he is an old school mapper, and not hip to the new ways things work. If you look at 99% of the HL2 game the world is 80% prop and 5% skybox and the rest static mapping. The use of props if used correctly is a beneifit to you and makes the world come alive.. but if over done can look cheep and shoddy.

But then again I also agree with Orphus as well, a box is a box reguardless of what is in it.. If you make a area like Orph has pictured in another thread, even in "no-texture" white it looks damn cool, and thats before prop one is placed. So try and mix the two together, have your great architecture, and use your props to fill in.. and if you can use some of the Architecture props to help out.. there can be a good mix of both, with out relying on either to get the job done.






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