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Posted by Myrk- on Wed May 18th at 12:45pm 2005

Ok so I finally got my laptop back from insurance, and my m8 ngot his back from insurance too. Thing is he is still stuck in the dark ages (I think) and still believes the old myths are still true today. Question/myth is-

Does leaving your battery in your laptop whilst charging it and having your laptop on damage the battery? Or is this an old thing thats been rectified? I read its not an issue with Lithium Ion batteries, but I still want comfirmation. Btw both our laptops are pretty new (2004/2005 models).

I'm sure Chronos will know this one.




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Posted by Orpheus on Wed May 18th at 1:02pm 2005

? quoting Myrk-

I'm sure Chronos will know this one.

Personally, I am waiting for Crono to dispel the illusions of "Neither the chicken nor the egg came first" <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif">

What we need to do is only post topics he knows absolutely nothing about just to drive him nuts. hence forth, no movie questions, no PC questions and no browser ones.. everything else is fair game <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">

I think we should have a cooking recipe thread, just to see if he is versed in life's better pleasures <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">

*whispers*

Simple things for simple minds, lets all pick on Crono for a day.

/runs





The best things in life, aren't things.



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Posted by Bewbies on Wed May 18th at 2:59pm 2005

the chicken was not the chicken until it produced to egg.

..that is all




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the marching band refused to yield



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Posted by Crono on Wed May 18th at 4:31pm 2005

Orph, I do know how to cook as well. I'm a multi-diverse individual.

Myrk. No, you can have the battery in while the laptop is on and charging. With some laptops that's the only way they can charge (like mine, now, for some reason).

Lithium Ions, just for some fun facts, has a controller chip in them which monitors the battery (which, most often times turns out to be like ten AA Panasonic batteries, just not Alkaline) That chip will deactivate the battery if it senses something wrong with the laptop that could cause some serious damage either way (or at least it should).

I had this issue with my dad's laptop, since him and I both have ThinkPad 600s, where his laptop would "turn off" any battery put into it, he's killed two of my batteries.

ANYWAY, the most important thing you can do is to try to "fully discharge" (until the laptop can't be powered anymore) and then charge back up. And, when you turn the laptop off for days at a time make sure the battery has a decent charge. This is only really important when you leave it alone for months or years, but it'll die if left greatly depleted for a long period of time.

Also, don't completely drain the batteries (you can't through the laptop, but don't do it through a fan motor or something as such). This will deplete the battery and it will not work ever again.

I knew someone who said they would deplete it all the way and I called them a moron. They yelled, then tried it again and bitched that the battery stopped working.

Try looking around some laptop manufacturer sites for some specific information on the battery. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

I'm sure Tracer will waltz over at some point and give you the chemical composition of a Li-On battery ... or just give more information on how it works exactly, thus allowing you to understand the why. But, as far as I've experience, read, and conversed, this should answer your questions.

I hope this helps.

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Posted by Orpheus on Wed May 18th at 4:50pm 2005

? quoting Crono
Orph, I do know how to cook as well. I'm a multi-diverse individual.

You couldn't possibly be that good cause... that would place you in my league. I have to be better at something dammit. :P





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Posted by fishy on Wed May 18th at 5:12pm 2005

the egg came 1st, btw




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Posted by Myrk- on Wed May 18th at 7:10pm 2005

Everyone knows that plz! We already had a forum thread about the chicken and the egg...

And yes Crono that did help <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">




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Posted by Bewbies on Wed May 18th at 7:39pm 2005

chicken wasn't a chicken until it laid the blasted egg! they created each other at the same time. bwar!

but yea, i'll leave this topic alone.. =D




the players tried to take the field
the marching band refused to yield



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Posted by French Toast on Wed May 18th at 8:46pm 2005

First came bob, and he started a Chicken farm.




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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Thu May 19th at 12:47am 2005

No chemistry lecture today. I think you have everything right, Crono.

Just as another fun fact:

The reason for the controler chip in Li-Ion batteries is to prevent overcharging, which would cause the battery to explode violently. I don't remember exactly why though. Probably hydrogen production.




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They aren?t really good for anything, but you can't help but laugh when one tumbles down the stairs.



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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 19th at 12:50am 2005

? quoting Tracer Bullet
Probably hydrogen production.

Perhaps there is also hydrogen in chicken eggs as well, might explain why the chicken came first, if it was the other way around there'd be nothing to yoke about now. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/rofl.gif">





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Posted by Crono on Thu May 19th at 11:45am 2005

? quote:
No chemistry lecture today. I think you have everything right, Crono.
Just as another fun fact:
The reason for the controler chip in Li-Ion batteries is to prevent overcharging, which would cause the battery to explode violently.image I don't remember exactly why though. Probably hydrogen production.


Ah, yes. Violent explosions. How un-American of me to forget.


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Posted by Myrk- on Thu May 19th at 12:06pm 2005

Geeze, everything ends in an explosion in America! Take Face off for instance.... You would have thought when a speedboat upturns it just sinks, but NO! IT EXPLODES!


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Posted by Crono on Thu May 19th at 5:52pm 2005

? quote:
Geeze, everything ends in an explosion in America! Take Face off for instance.... You would have thought when a speedboat upturns it just sinks, but NO! IT EXPLODES!


On behalf of my nation: I appologize for turning John Woo into such a terrible director.

But. I hate that movie so much.


Blame it on Microsoft, God does.




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