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Posted by Dark Tree on Sun Jun 5th at 1:12am 2005

I am posting from an alternate computer rigt now, as my regular computer is completely thrashed by a worm I downloaded. It killed my Windows and I have to completely wipe and reinstall. My friend was able to bootup a Linux Live CD and backup all the s**t I needed before we wipe the system.

I contracted the virus through Shareaza downloading an AnyDVD 'crack' for the latest version. Mind you, I am running AVG Free on my system AND I specifically scanned THAT file before attempting to open it. Here is what the bugger did to my system:

-Deleted All .mp3 and .com files on my system.

-Deleted a ton of registry keys and changed a ton more

-Disassociated .exe files. (Making it so I could not open ANY .exe files, including notepad or any program with .exe)

-Removed CTRL+ALT+DEL so I could not get into task manager

-Removed the option to get into control panel

-Added various files and programs throughout my comp.

-Disabled all sorts of Reboot s**t so I couldn't go into safe mode or log off or clear pagefile or memory.

-If I DID try to open up a .exe, it would give me a lovely popup saying the hackers name, and a picture, and a French Flag, saying 'Cyberbob33 Bx The French Hacker' etc. Here is a link to the Symantec website telling all about it. It is a variant of the W32.Nopir.A worm. Nasty litte f**ker.

Anyway.....My friend said that Panda Antivirus software is the best protection available...and he has used it for years...says it is better than Norton by leaps and bounds. I was wondering if you guys know anyting about Panda or similar. I used a 30 day trial a couple of months ago and was impressed...just wanted to get a second (or third opinion) before purchasing. It is $50 per year with multiple daily updates. The website is www.pandasoftware.com. Norton has given me problems before, so I am seriously considering Panda. What do you guys think?





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Posted by Mephs on Sun Jun 5th at 1:18am 2005

WOOYAY!

Bad call. Its generally something that I'VE done that messes up my computer. That'll learn ya, my warez munching friend.




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Posted by Dark Tree on Sun Jun 5th at 1:21am 2005

Yep indeedy I have learned....AVG blows.



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Posted by OtZman on Sun Jun 5th at 2:54am 2005

Bad luck there <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">

Perhaps a stupid question, but does this thing remove .mp3 files even if they're on different partitions? Don't wanna lose all those goodies.

I'm using Nod32, Zone Alarm and Ad-Aware (and FF of course), and that's worked fine for me so far.



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Posted by Dark Tree on Sun Jun 5th at 4:30am 2005

I would believe it does...but I can't confirm that...as I have only 1.



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Posted by Crono on Sun Jun 5th at 6:09am 2005

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Perhaps a stupid question, but does this thing remove .mp3 files even
if they're on different partitions?


Yes. It would infect the entire system, since it would have to go through the registry or some other database of the system to find the files on the current partition, and, obviously, those listings are separated by partitions. Not to mention a virus this nasty would probably try to spread its self ... unless the writer had a specific target in mind, such as wares people.

AVG does blow. I had it on my laptop, I hadn't had a chance to put anything else on. Opened my laptop to my schools (unprotected) network: BAM. virus' up the ass. AVG just sat there with its thumb up its ass. Of course, there's always cooperate level virus scanners (some of which severe all out side connections when anything is detected to prohibit any spreading of the infection)

I've noticed things Norton can't scan as well, but I'm decently protected for now. I have a pesky dying HDD problem at the moment. Need to find an identical logic board to swap with, since, the thing stores data and spins fine.


Blame it on Microsoft, God does.



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Posted by SpiKeRs on Sun Jun 5th at 7:09pm 2005

AVG is poor in that it has completely missed things in the past. Though perhaps unwisely, because have never had a big virus that trashed everything, I've kept with it because its free




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Posted by Forceflow on Sun Jun 5th at 7:28pm 2005

www.free-av.com

Works fine for me.

Otherwise I'd opt for Avast Antivirus, but that doesn't seem to have multi-XP-account support.



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Posted by Fjorn on Sun Jun 5th at 9:27pm 2005

AVG... is crap, I have no clue why when I ask people about it they reccomend it to me :/



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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Jun 5th at 9:46pm 2005

It is my experience that no AV program is 100%.

It seems to me that at least 50% of any virus acquisition is entirely on the head of the person whom got it. I could be wrong of course, and truly it wouldn't be the first or last time either but... If you have a virus, STOP crying about it, What you need to do is STOP getting them in the first place.

Now, I am not referring to worms that just arrive via the net connection, but just virus's.. The ones you seek however unknowingly by going to sites that have them.

I have been lucky I suppose. In all the years on line I have had only one virus and a couple worms/trojan's. This, with my *borrowed/taboo* practices.

Right this moment, I am running ZERO AV programs.. AND am virus free. :/





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Posted by Andrei on Sun Jun 5th at 9:53pm 2005

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only [...] a couple worms/trojan's.




I envy you, I really do. I turned zonealarm off for 30 freaking seconds and got piled over by no less than 150 spyware/trojan surprises. I haven't had any serious viruses, though, and that's something to be thankful for.




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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Jun 5th at 9:59pm 2005

Perhaps the "Router Firewall" is the most understated protection in the world then. :/



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Posted by Andrei on Sun Jun 5th at 10:02pm 2005

Well, as of now, I will be behind a router so... <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">




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Posted by G.Ballblue on Sun Jun 5th at 10:07pm 2005

? quoting Orpheus
Perhaps the "Router Firewall" is the most understated protection in the world then. :/

Don't router fire walls tend to interfere with some things? Blah, iono.

Doesn't Windows XP have an antivirus? How good is that thing? It should be worth something, since Microsoft itself supports it.

For the past time, I've been using Trend Micro PC -cillin for an antivirus -- it has a popup message on it. It comes up if your computer is idling, and catches something. For some reason, I have some kind of crap called " dial porndial.x" trying to get into my computer every freaking second, since whenever I leave my computer be for longer than 3 minutes (idling time) I get that message!




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Posted by Quaver on Sun Jun 5th at 10:21pm 2005

I got a similar virus the other day and had to wipe everything. Couldnt acces task manager and the computer was being generally slow. Im supprised my computer lasted as long as it did with out any anti-virus, firewall or service pack 2 for xp. Well i did have my Router Firewall but that had allmost all of the ports opened and forwarded anyway.

This time im not taking any chances, ive installed the full norton suite(apart from being slow it does the job), SP2, microsoft anit-spyware and have clossed all the prots on my computer.




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Posted by Dark Tree on Mon Jun 6th at 3:18am 2005

Also...I just noticed....it deleted all avi files too.

I didn't care so much about the mp3s....

the .com files totally f**ked my windows, but I reinstalled Windows no prob....

but now....I just noticed that on all my backup discs, that the virus had deleted my .avi's as well....and that is seriously f**king weak. I had many many custom avi files that I had created for videos, and all sorts of stuff......but now I have Panda running....nothing is going to touch my computer ever again.





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Posted by Fjorn on Mon Jun 6th at 5:05am 2005

Why doies everyone always tout AVG as the best free anti-virus...

Its a peice of crap.... hell even Norton is better than AVG...



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Posted by Crono on Mon Jun 6th at 6:09am 2005

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In all the years on line I have had only one virus and a couple worms/trojan's.


Don't kid your self.
You've had hundreds, they just don't do much of anything except take up space.

Just because you never knew it was there doesn't mean it wasn't there.




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Don't router fire walls tend to interfere with some things?

Only things that go THROUGH the router. Which of course you can set up how you like. If there are certain programs that you want to host through or something (e.g. Steam) you can find out what ports it needs and forward them through the router. Easy. (it's all well laid out in any router's manual)



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Doesn't Windows XP have an antivirus?

... I guess you could call it that ... seems to cause more problems then it fixes though


Yes, some of the most invaluable protection you can have is a HARDWARE firewall. Hardware, obviously, has to be physically changed or circumvented through software means. While software can just be all sorts of funked with. Only with software could you send snippets of ASM to be stored in memory and executed. (You can open a remote shell this way ... only if the software is poorly written and they don't check/clear their overflow)

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nothing is going to touch my computer ever again


So, you're locking your computer in a vault and chaining it to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean?


Blame it on Microsoft, God does.



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Posted by Dark Tree on Mon Jun 6th at 7:40am 2005

Yeah...that was really gay of me to say...but...I was just trying to sound tough so virus' would hide.



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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jun 6th at 7:49am 2005

? quoting Dark Tree
Yeah...that was really gay of me to say...but...I was just trying to sound tough so virus' would hide.

Worked for me, had me pissing even as I read it.. Actually, I piss often so thats not a really good indicator. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/heee.gif">





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