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Posted by satchmo on Mon Jun 6th at 3:50pm 2005

During the latest Steam update, I was "strongly recommendated" to update my Catalyst driver. I did what I was told, but after the installation, the "c:program filesATI" folder is always opened when I start Windows XP. It's freaking annoying that I have to close the folder everytime I start Windows.

So I restored to my previous checkpoint with Windows and do without the latest driver. I also had to turn off the Steam warning.

Lesson learned: it's better not to update any driver unless something actually isn't working right.



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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jun 6th at 3:56pm 2005

Run "msconfig" and turn all that crap off.. I advise to always use the newest drivers personally.. I have seen times where I regretted doing so, but that was back when ATI had poor support.

Anywho's, run msconfig and turn off all that crap thats annoying you.





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Posted by Dr Brasso on Mon Jun 6th at 4:08pm 2005

i too was told to update, did so, no problems..... :/

Doc B...:dodgy:





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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jun 6th at 4:10pm 2005

/me has not logged in today. I have yet to see said message.

perhaps I will shortly.





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Posted by omegaslayer on Mon Jun 6th at 7:50pm 2005

This happened to me about 2 weeks ago, it asked me to update my cat drivers. Im actuallly grateful for this, because Iwould have never known there was an update <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

BTW orph this was the program steam checking, there is nothing you can turn off in msconfig to stop this from happening <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">.



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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jun 6th at 8:02pm 2005

? quoting omegaslayer

BTW orph this was the program steam checking, there is nothing you can turn off in msconfig to stop this from happening .

No, no silly butt.. I am talking about the ATI stuff that auto-installs when you replace the drivers. not Steam related things. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">





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Posted by French Toast on Mon Jun 6th at 8:09pm 2005

I only got the drive because Republic Commando was buggering up without it. I hate the way I have to uninstall the previous drivers with ATI though.




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Posted by satchmo on Mon Jun 6th at 8:26pm 2005

I played Half-Life 2 single-player and deathmatch this morning with the older driver, and everything looked fine to me. I read the release note from ATI, and there is no specific fix for Half-Life 2 or any Steam games. Most of the changes for this driver update were made for Republic Commando, which I don't play anyways.

So I'm sticking with the old driver for now. No need to upgrade unless something turns Half-Life 2 or Far Cry buggy.




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Posted by rs6 on Mon Jun 6th at 8:31pm 2005

A good driver motto: If everything works, don't update.



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Posted by Crono on Mon Jun 6th at 9:53pm 2005

Isn't that "ATi" directory just a place where it unpacks the installation files to? Meaning, you can delete that directory (check though)

But, it would be under msconfig.

Or the registry setting (Start >> Run >> regedit):

HKLM >> SOFTWARE >> Microsoft >> Windows >> CurrentVersion >> Run

Delete the keys you want to in the right hand panel. There are msconfig settings stored in other places in the registry as well. Under:

HKLM >> SOFTWARE >> Microsoft >> Shared Tools >> MSConfig >> startupfolder [and] startupreg

contain directories underneath them which can be booted as well. You have to delete the directories holding the data though UNDER these directories.

rs6: Most drivers that come out now aren't really fixing anything, they're making things run faster. The problem is that some (most) developers don't test like they should.


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Posted by satchmo on Tue Jun 7th at 12:59am 2005

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Isn't that "ATi" directory just a place where it unpacks the installation files to?

That's what I thought too. But when I tried removing the files to the Recycle Bin, Explorer refused, saying that it was unable to delete them because "some files are in use".

Heck, I feel fine with the previous drivers. I'll use them unless something goes b0rk. I just feel that ATI should do a better job with their driver update process. Users shouldn't have to hunt around in the registry to fix installation bugs.

I am just thankful for the Windows XP Restoration tool. It has saved me from disaster numerous times. It even saved my machine from an intrusion of pop-up website once.




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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jun 7th at 1:47am 2005

? quoting satchmo

It even saved my machine from an intrusion of pop-up website once.

That sounds an aweful lot like a spyware program bud. You do run spybot and adaware, right?

Everything you described today, sounds more like spyware than ATI issues.





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Posted by omegaslayer on Tue Jun 7th at 4:37am 2005

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A good driver motto: If everything works, don't update.

Actually thats a bad motto IMO. Generally new driver updates, whether it be for Windows XP or ATI drivers, they make the drivers more efficient, meaning your computer will run faster even if it is soo slightly.
I can never think of a time that I updated drivers and they screwed my computer up. You just need to do it correctly. When ATI means uninstall old video drivers, they mean UNINSTALL THEM! And that should be trhe general rule for all driver updates (unless its BiOS updates, which is another story).



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