Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by Devious on Sat Jun 11th at 8:30am 2005


Quote from this weeks Valve weekly update

We've been pretty quiet about Day of Defeat: Source in the last few weeks. But new information and images from DoD: Source will be made available starting next week, as we lead to its release. We've been steadily working away on this project, and we're excited to see what everyone thinks of what we've produced.
In the coming weeks we'll also be releasing a Source revived version of Half-Life 1: Deathmatch. People who already own Half-Life 1: Source will receive this as a free download




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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by Myrk- on Sat Jun 11th at 8:38am 2005


Finally! They should release DM source for free- then everyone will play that instead of crappy HL2DM.


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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by Leperous on Sat Jun 11th at 10:43am 2005


So, this will be an add-on to HL1:Source rather than an HL2 modification, and won't be available to 'bronze' people? Oh wow that'll catch like wildfire. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif">





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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by habboi on Sat Jun 11th at 11:04am 2005


I'm glad I bought silver!

I mean silver was like on $10 pounds more, gotta be pretty silly to buy it!





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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by Loco on Sat Jun 11th at 11:14am 2005


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I'm glad I bought silver!

I mean silver was like on $10 pounds more, gotta be pretty silly to buy it!


I'm just gonna deal with the idea that bronze is "silly" (assuming that's what you mean). Not all of us are blessed with broadband. This was kindly ignored by a certain company whose name begins with V, and they released tap all with the boxed version. Subsequently, some of us have the equivalent of the bronze package and no say in the matter.

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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by pepper on Sat Jun 11th at 12:08pm 2005


You could have baught the collectors edition.



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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by Myrk- on Sat Jun 11th at 12:15pm 2005


Yes, we all could have wasted money on a game, or we can buy the bronze version and have a scabby company not give us the option to upgrade, and let them charge us even more for a game they already sold us.




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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by Andrei on Sat Jun 11th at 12:15pm 2005


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So, this will be an add-on to HL1:Source rather than an HL2 modification, and won't be available to 'bronze' people? Oh wow that'll catch like wildfire.


As a HL2:Bronze owner, I am deeply offended that valve charge extra for a game that was released 7 years ago and that most of us have played atleast 2 or 3 times and know it by heart. Shame on valve for being so money-grabbing.

AND I wonder If those people at valve are aware of what people think about this. If they are and don't give a crap, then valve, as a company, doesn't have a very bright future.




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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by Myrk- on Sat Jun 11th at 12:17pm 2005


On the note of the whole Valve modding situation- is it against Steam/Valve to simply convert HLDM:Source to work for free on all PC's? Surely you could just release it under a different name, I mean your just modifying valve content which they allow right?


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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by Andrei on Sat Jun 11th at 12:21pm 2005


Yeah but if you release a game identical to theirs but with a different name you will be breaking some software distribution laws (in other words you'll become a software pirate since valve charge extra for the game you'll be distributing for free) and risk going to jail (or atleast paying a handsome fine).




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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by fishy on Sat Jun 11th at 12:32pm 2005


excluding huge amounts of people because they, for one reason or another, had to buy the 'shop' version sounds like a great business practice, as well as a surefire way of getting one of their fading games to retain as much popularity as possible. c**ts.




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Posted by Madedog on Sat Jun 11th at 12:40pm 2005


Great news, though, gives another reason why use ppatcher <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">



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Posted by Andrei on Sat Jun 11th at 1:44pm 2005


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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by Loco on Sat Jun 11th at 2:15pm 2005


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You could have baught the collectors edition.


Not a great fan of paying extra for an aluminium tin, a T-shirt, and a longer wait. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">






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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by Spartan on Sat Jun 11th at 3:37pm 2005


I don't understand why we even had to pay for HL Source. I saw no difference in the two games from screenshots.




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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by Madedog on Sat Jun 11th at 3:45pm 2005


That's because there weren't any! The only difference is that there were displacements and 3D skyboxes! That's it!

And ppatcher is a thingy-thingy which allows you to play ALL steam games for FREE. If you have no games bought, you cannot play Online though. But, if you have even Condition Zero bought, you can play all of the HL1 engine games. Dunno about the HL2 games, though (online play that is ofcourse). But if you have no games bought, you cannot play anything in online since it gives you the "Steam ticked expired" error.
We have a HUGE forum (okay, that's in russia, but still :P) where all such things are discussed. All this nonsteam and steam cracking thingy... http://cs.rin.ru is the address.. it has a English link too, for those who do not speak russian.



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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by ReNo on Sat Jun 11th at 4:35pm 2005


You didn't have to bloody pay for it - the option was there, you could get it or not. The differences weren't stunning, but it was a good deal for people who hadn't already played the game. Besides, it wasn't like the $10 or whatever extra was solely for HL:S - you were also getting DoD:S and the whole Valve back catalogue. People always expect something for nothing. If you bought the bronze package, you bought HL2 and CS:S - why should you get all the extras that others are paying more for?! Yes I can understand the plea of people who bought the retail package since you didn't get a very great set of options (collectors was overpriced and udnerwhelming, standard was really limiting), but it was made pretty clear what was included in each package, and you made your choice.

EDIT: Actually thats wrong Madedog - you also got better water, particle effects and, I seem to recall, updated sound effects (for better or worse ).






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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by Cassius on Sat Jun 11th at 5:18pm 2005


ATTENTION: COMPANIES CHARGE MONEY FOR THE PRODUCTS THEY SELL YOU. THIS IS CLEARLY FRAUD. ALERT THE POLICE AND MEDIA - THIS IS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY. I HAVE DECLARED MARTIAL LAW.

(In addition to what Reno added, HL1:S also included Ragdoll physics. I just wish they had released the source of the maps - that would have been good fun.)





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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by pepper on Sat Jun 11th at 8:22pm 2005


Aye, i completely agree, they expect to get all the stuff for free, i already expected valve to come with more expansions that wherent in the normal/bronze version.

I like valve and steam.



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Re: Valve releasing HL1:DM source in next few weeks :D
Posted by Fjorn on Sat Jun 11th at 8:26pm 2005


Also, they redid a few(1) of the zen levels, and redid the ending...

Also, for that $10 more, you get: HL1:S, DoD:S, Back order catalog (Hl1, OP4, TFC, CS, CS:CZ, CS:DS, DoD, Ricocet), and I belive any other sorce ports of htere back order (with the possible exception of TFC:S most likely being released with TF2)

seems like a good deal to me... $50+ worth of games for $10...



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