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Posted by Kain on Fri Jun 24th at 3:46pm 2005

I don't wanna sound negative, but I don't think pirates vs ninja is such a great idea: they come from two incompatible worlds... (pirates as in pirates of the carribean?). I was thinking more about a sci fi mod, with giant antlions or something like that; maybe with an obscure touch, more violent and bloody...

Well, whatever is the theme, I think I can help u with the design of weapons, costumes, aliens, architectures, etc...





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Posted by Mephs on Fri Jun 24th at 6:04pm 2005

I personally wouldn't join, since I haven't HL2, nor am I a particularly competent mapper. At a push, however, I probably could do conceptual art for modelling around, and perhaps as a (again conceptually) puzzle designer (a much overlooked feature of games).

However I'm pleased to see that Quaver has the maturity to leave the role of project manager open for other people, since its normally "I have this great idea for a mod, everyone else make it to my specification and ill be the manager"

Organisation-wise if experienced mappers were do deal with the main architecture, and then passed their portion of the project on to several newbies for texture alignment, dirtying it up, etc (the equivelent of the Korean workers who do the in between frames in cartoon cells etc. :P ). it could work quite well.

However, I'm notoriously unreliable for informal things, so unless its a serious organised project with deadlines etc. I won't throw my hat in the ring.






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Posted by Andrei on Fri Jun 24th at 7:53pm 2005

Pirates vs Ninjas? That's the crappiest idea i've heard yet! How could I have missed it? And why the hell do we need a story? Look at counter-strike -- It's one of the most popular mods in the world and it lacks any storyline. When I go online to play something, I don't give a rat's ass about storyline; I want RPGs, blood, gore and explosions.




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Posted by fishy on Fri Jun 24th at 9:15pm 2005

captain pugwash & crew V's the ninja stick people.....how the hell can anyone call that crappy? <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">


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Posted by Natus on Fri Jun 24th at 9:20pm 2005

i love pirates vs ninjas but NOT in a hl2 mod, think about it, how would it look, ninjas jumping around and throwing shurikens at pirates out on the big sea.
its true that this is funny in a flash movie or comic, but i dont think it will turn out to be a very action packed or funny gameplay.



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Posted by Windows 98 on Fri Jun 24th at 9:49pm 2005

Ok, instead of pirates vs ninjas, how about like its a space themed kinda thing. Where theres the humans and the aliens. The aliens would have to be creative though. and maps would range from space stations, to alien planets. We could f**k with the physics alot too. Outer space would be fun to play in.

It would be nice if the aliens had didffernt guns then the humans too. Humans have like grappling hooks, pistols, bazookas (oh jeez), sniper rifles. Aliens could have laser guns, plasma rifles, and plasma grenades (halo 2 style).

Either that or something that invlves the ghetto or the mafia. if we went with the ghetto we could have like two differnt gangs as teams. Instead of like the regular sounds like "follow me" and "go, go, go" it could be like "Yo, geet ova here" and "git your punk ass ova there!". thatd be interesting.

The mafia one would be hard to pull off, the mafia has no one to fight...

But back to the alien vs human idea, thatd be awesome if the humans had jet packs and the aliens had mega jump powers. Id like to see someone make a alien army base, how they would design it.

Let me know if those ideas are crap or good. I have more...



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Posted by Andrei on Fri Jun 24th at 10:35pm 2005

While the humans vs aliens thing is fairly unoriginal (AVP, natural selection, Hostile Waters, Incoming, Duke Nukem - all of them - and many many more), the Mafia theme sounds like an interesting idea but, like you said, the mafia theme has limitations. Perhaps the russian mafia (molotovs, mosin nagants etc) vs the italian mafia (tommy guns, colts etc)?




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Posted by Natus on Fri Jun 24th at 11:11pm 2005

what if we mixed it all...alien mafia battles in russia...or not :/



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Posted by Pegs on Fri Jun 24th at 11:42pm 2005

Im the only one so far to vote "Other[sound/website/project manager]". Mainly because i am a realy crap mapper and it would be like having a great map, and then all a sudden you walk into a killbox.

Not brilliant i would say, im ok at sound can edit kind off and do minor things, as for project manager (lol im 15, that awnsers it for you). Website i am very basic, although i do know a good website mate but i think that Lep is probably more suited to that.

Also noticed no one has voted for coding, maybe we dont have any or they arnt voting/reading.




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Posted by Myrk- on Sat Jun 25th at 12:44am 2005

A while ago I suggested remaking HL1DM for HL2, and I still think we should even though valve are making it. It would be easy to make, you can use alot of content from HL1 and up the polys and pixels (which isn't hard) and we wouldn't have to pay for it. My current understanding is that only silver and gold members of steam can get HL1DM for source.




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Posted by BlisTer on Sat Jun 25th at 12:46am 2005

? quoting NatUS
i love pirates vs ninjas but NOT in a hl2 mod, think about it, how would it look, ninjas jumping around and throwing shurikens at pirates out on the big sea.

hehe idd.

On the issue of SP vs MP. MP has a far longer lifespan and gets more ppl to play then SP.

i think a more relevant question is COOP vs DM.

so far no-one has opposed conc-jumps, i like that too. Yet that would mean that it would have to be fast-paced, hence quasi excluding the maffia theme.




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Posted by Myrk- on Sat Jun 25th at 12:57am 2005

I think we should create my hi tech future assassin mod, a semi 1st and 3rd person RPG, where you customize your character using a huge set of different pieces... I like games where you feel more individual rather than just a clone. If you want to know more I'll create a design document... I've explained the mod alot to people, and most people love the idea.

Just think- robots and humans, all assassins trying to either:

  • Kill each other (DM)
  • Kill the other race (TDM)
  • Kill the target and each other (Hunted DM)
  • Kill the target (Hunted with Teams)
  • Plus more...



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Posted by Mephs on Sat Jun 25th at 1:32am 2005

A long term RPG would be difficult to set up for MP, while a "create your own character" type thing would slip into ye olde trap of Slow+Power vs, quick+powerful.

Still, robots = good. IMO, RPGness, less so.




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Posted by BlisTer on Sat Jun 25th at 1:43am 2005

Myrk have you ever played the desert crisis HL1 mod? If there ever was customizable mod it is this one. You can fully customize your head and there were hundreds of combinations possible. add a lot of different-style weapons to that and the possibility to do long/high jumps (so basicly conc-jumping without the conc) speedruns,... and you have a sweet fastpaced mod. maybe this is the kind of thing you mean, and indeed its great.


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Posted by ReNo on Sat Jun 25th at 2:14am 2005

All this talk of customisation and robots is reminding me of good old Research Project: ELVA - the mod I started up ages back, couldn't decide whether to do it for HL1 or hold off for HL2, and then ended up putting indefinately on hold. Maybe someday, maybe someday...




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Posted by Windows 98 on Sat Jun 25th at 2:40am 2005

Muslim Wars, The Jews vs The Arabs. Dust themd type maps... There can be random NPC american troops



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Posted by Fjorn on Sat Jun 25th at 5:35am 2005

I can code, BUT

1) I honestly don't have a compiler compatible with HL2 atm, so..
2) I would take forever to code (lack of time mostly)



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Posted by Madedog on Sat Jun 25th at 6:27am 2005

Fjorn, 1) I can send you one
2) Can't help you with that :-P



But, you know what would be the most breaking through in all of the Half-Life history? Have you noticed, that NONE of the MultiPlayer mods are an online RPG! Such as Runescape (the most played one, has about couple hundred thousand players), so that you pull around in a HUGE world (no doubt, it if loads, then a long time, but for this you can move around quite a lot of time) and kill some "monsters" and have a "wilderness" where you can fight with other people and everything would be bind to your Steam account... it would be REALLY cool. You cannot make a server on your own, but there are server just like Runescape has. I played it for couple of years (a long time ago) and sometimes I help my pals out if I have a lot of spare time and pull around for couple of hours.

This mod would be THE harderst to make, but if you actually think about it - HL2: RuneScape (okay, the name would need remake) then... WOW! It would be FAMOUS and it would beat every other damn mod on the internet! We would need superb and professional coders (the project creation itself would be easy, though) who knew a lot about C++. I am surprised Valve hasn't yet thought about it! Afterall, you could turn it into a free game and a members game oneday, so that Members have like umm... more quests, more places to go, more items, more skills and stuff... and payed like 5 bucks for this in a month... I mean, who would not want to TRY atleast an online Source-based RPG!

To tell you the truth, if we would like it to be stand-alone, we would also need Source license to distribute it, but if it stays as a mod... or even if we can get Valve as an ally, the Members version would also be even more thinkable!


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Posted by Fjorn on Sat Jun 25th at 6:49am 2005

Well, first, thanks to this I have a compiler capable of it, but

What you suggested seems rather... ambitious



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Posted by Fjorn on Sat Jun 25th at 7:30am 2005

...requires that either Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 Enterprise Edition or Visual C++ 6.0 Professional Edition with Service Pack 4 or Service Pack 5 installed

son of a...

Why the hate against standard edition, WHY!?



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