Microsoft? Windows AntiSpyware (Beta)
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Posted by satchmo on Fri Jun 24th at 10:44pm 2005


I am torn between installing it and not installing it on my machine. Would it provide decent protection against spywares or would it just slow down the performance? Does it consume too much resources running in the background? Does it make games crash (since it is only a beta)? Is it really an anti-spyware, or is it just a spyware itself in disguise?

Has anyone else tried this? What's your opinion? I know it's from Microsoft, but try to look past the bias.




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Re: Microsoft? Windows AntiSpyware (Beta)
Posted by Andrei on Fri Jun 24th at 10:52pm 2005


You shouldn't fully rely on beta antispyware soft for protection IMHO. I haven't tried it nor am I tempted to. For me, adaware and zonealarm are kings.




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Posted by RaPtoR on Fri Jun 24th at 11:53pm 2005


I use ad-aware and Norton Internet Security 2004. Why switch to something else when this works perfectly?



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Posted by Myrk- on Sat Jun 25th at 12:22am 2005


I've got it installed. Like most (or all) spyware program it only runs when you tell it to. I actually reckon its the best free spyware program there is. It spots alot more spyware than any other program too. I don't think it runs in the background unless you want it too either, and IMHO I think theres no need to run that sort of program constantly. Just schedule it every week (an inbuilt function of the program I believe).

If you don't have a spyware program already, get it. You don't need an authentic copy of windows either, you can actually skip the authentication process as its a breach of statutory rights or something.




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Posted by Myrk- on Sat Jun 25th at 12:46am 2005


Just did a scan... First I did a system scan, and it took 2 minutes. Then I did a deep file scan which scans every file on your PC, and that took 45 seconds. Just to make sure you know, I have around 400Gb of data on my HD's.

Pretty quick eh? Much faster than AVG and other programs.




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Re: Microsoft? Windows AntiSpyware (Beta)
Posted by fraggard on Sat Jun 25th at 3:12am 2005


Like Myrk said, Windows antispyware is really good. It's basically a repackaged version of Giant anti spyware, which was renowned for being very thorough and accurate. I would definitely recommend it to everyone. The only problem I've seen is that it likes to hang around in the systray after you've specifically hit the exit button. So be sure to quit it manually twice. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">




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Posted by Thylacine on Sat Jun 25th at 4:49am 2005


Yeah I like it.

It's also the only anitspyware thingy that recognises Kazaa as spyware, which is exactly what it is.




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Posted by Madedog on Sat Jun 25th at 6:32am 2005


I have it, and it is running on the background as well. It also gives me an inquiry (as always, with M$ "are you sure" and "do you want" style) when a program makes way for itself to startup, and i can review it and either allow it or block it.

*wished microsoft would release a free antivirus oneday*

Anyway, microsoft is making great steps towards security. IMO they should buy Symantec corporation and make an AV from Norton and also integrate a part of NPF to the Windows Firewall. Then the security would be perfect and it would be hard to infect anyone. Perhaps they should even include it into Windows install so you would not be infected on the first 15 minutes you are plugged in :-P



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Re: Microsoft? Windows AntiSpyware (Beta)
Posted by $loth on Sat Jun 25th at 6:40am 2005


Apparently it's very good, I would install it.




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Posted by Crono on Sat Jun 25th at 6:56am 2005


My dad installed this, apparently, and it has this hideous window that pops up and takes up like half the screen whenevery it finds something. Depending on what you have running, this could be a major pain in the ass (and laggy).

Think MSN sidescreen popups x 4.

(I'm slightly exagurating on the size, but it's still rediculously huge.)



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Posted by Thylacine on Mon Jun 27th at 7:53am 2005


? quoting Crono
My dad installed this, apparently, and it has this hideous window that pops up and takes up like half the screen whenevery it finds something. Depending on what you have running, this could be a major pain in the ass (and laggy).

Think MSN sidescreen popups x 4.

(I'm slightly exagurating on the size, but it's still rediculously huge.)

Ive never had that problem, the dialogues are no bigger than anything else, certainly no bigger than the Adaware dialogues.




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Posted by Loco on Mon Jun 27th at 9:42am 2005


I'm an anti-spyware-software-maker's nightmare - i.e. I have everything installed even if they recommend you uninstall other stuff. I have MS Anti-Spyware, Spybot S&D, AVG, and Ad-aware. Never had a problem with MS Anti-Spyware, and it does have a couple of really handy things. Firstly it spotted an MSN extension I'd downloaded as spyware, which I have to confess I didn't have a clue about, and secondly it runs regular quick checks which whilst they slow the machine down a bit I can just leave going while I'm in lessons. Worth getting, but you can always back it up with other programs.






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Posted by fraggard on Mon Jul 11th at 4:51pm 2005


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Like Myrk said, Windows antispyware is really good. It's basically a repackaged version of Giant anti spyware, which was renowned for being very thorough and accurate. I would definitely recommend it to everyone. The only problem I've seen is that it likes to hang around in the systray after you've specifically hit the exit button. So be sure to quit it manually twice.



Yeah... I'm going to eat crow, and some humble pie...

MS recently bought Claria. Claria is probably the worlds most profitable business making cash off spyware.

MS Anti Spyware, (yes, it's the one I'm praising above) has now decided to mark Claria.GAIN (malware) as spyware that can be ignored by default. MS denied and acknowledged it, basically claiming that although the issue exists, it amounted to nothing, because they said so. So that confirms that it's true.

So basically, MSAntiSpyware sucks now. Don't use it. RIP Giant.


Edit:
-The deal never went through, so MS doesn't own Claria.
-This MS response says that these changes were made because Claria requested them
-Apparently This happened a while back, 3-4 months, but was only reported recently.




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Re: Microsoft? Windows AntiSpyware (Beta)
Posted by satchmo on Mon Jul 11th at 6:56pm 2005


I guess we should all think twice before trusting Microsoft. It doesn't really have a great track record.


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Re: Microsoft? Windows AntiSpyware (Beta)
Posted by rs6 on Mon Jul 11th at 7:04pm 2005


I heard it does this.




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