If the Genes Fit
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Re: If the Genes Fit
Posted by satchmo on Mon Jun 27th at 4:11am 2005


Ii didn't decide to be straight, never came to a sexually orienting fork in the road to choose the road more traveled. I was never indoctrinated by anyone advancing a heterosexual agenda. Talk about coals to Newcastle.

And it's the same for every gay person I've ever talked to. From the earliest stirrings of sexual proclivity, they were somehow aware that they belonged in the same-sex sandbox. This was the case with Brad, one of my best friends. But perhaps, I ventured, something environmental, something learned, accounted for his sexual orientation? "Yeah, right," he said, "I read a book on it when I was 3 years old."

Just in time for Gay Pride Month?and in time to be rushed to the battlefields of the culture wars?comes "When I Knew," edited by fashion photographer Robert Trachtenberg, a collection of stories from gays and lesbians, famous and not so famous, describing their Eureka! moments. Of course, writes contributor Brian Leitch, you know, then you know-know, then you really, really know. 'Nuf said.

This is a funny, sad, wonderful little book, full of mordant vignettes of self-discovery and disclosure. When comic Michele Balan told her grandmother that she was a lesbian, her grandmother replied: "No you're not, you're Romanian. On your father's side!" For political fundraiser Barry Karas, it happened when he was 8 years old. After watching the boy skip around, playing hopscotch, a family friend leaned over to Karas' father and said, "Ben, I think you got a problem."

These childhood annunciations occur in strange ways. Makeup artist Jeff Judd remembers edging under the TV to look up the loincloth of Ron Ely, who played Tarzan. Composer Marc Shaiman had a crush on Dick Gautier, who played Hymie the robot on "Get Smart." As a child, "Will & Grace" producer Jon Kinnally became obsessed with the man's naked back on a box of Doan's pills.

What is striking is that they had such revelations to begin with. It never dawned on me that I was straight. I just was. For gays and lesbians, it seems, there is always a moment when they realize that what they want isn't officially sanctioned. A cognitive moment that marks a cleaving away from the larger heterosexual world, the opening of an otherness, like jets peeling off in the missing-man formation.

Also conveniently timed, a June 3 article in the biology journal Cell that describes a gene-modifying experiment in which scientists switched fruit flies' sexual orientation from straight to gay. In the words of the study's authors: "The splicing of a single neuronal gene thus specifies essentially all aspects of a complex innate behavior." At least for Drosophila melanogaster, sexual orientation is genetic.

A month ago, researchers in Sweden released the results of a brain-scanning study suggesting the existence of human pheromones?scent chemicals that govern sexual behavior in many species?and demonstrating that gay males react to male sweat pheromones the same way heterosexual women do. There was no mention of socks.

Sexuality is bewildering and complex and fantastically varied?on this, I think, all sides agree?and yet there is a growing body of evidence suggesting that sexual orientation has a biological foundation, and that homosexuality is not "unnatural" in the sense of not occurring in nature. Biologist Bruce Bagemihl's book "Biological Exuberance" (1999) documents hundreds of examples of homosexual behavior in the animal kingdom.

The common shorthand for all this is the "gay gene," a term popularized by geneticist Dean Hamer and journalist Peter Copeland's book "The Science of Desire" (1994).

The notion of a gay gene, or anything like it, is anathema to organizations such as the rabidly anti-gay Focus on the Family. If homosexuality is a natural variation in the human genome, homosexuals are not guilty of anything except being human. If it is established that homosexuality is genetically, or at least biologically, rooted?regardless of how such feelings are behaviorally shaded?then the campaign to marginalize and criminalize gays is revealed as the bigoted pogrom that it is.

How bad do Christian fundamentalists want to refute this idea? Watergate con and prison minister Charles Colson, in a piece last month responding to a New York Times op-ed article by Harvard cognitive scientist Steven Pinker, argues that "of course" homosexuality is "evolutionarily maladaptive," according to the tenets of natural selection. It took homophobia to rehabilitate Darwin in the eyes of fundamentalists.

In the long run, this is a fight homophobes cannot hope to win, simply because the fear they traffic in?that somehow America's children will be seduced into the homosexual lifestyle?is so at odds with common experience. Most people know, at the core of their self-conception, that they were born straight or gay, and no amount of indoctrinating, no agenda from either side, could change that.



"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge



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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Mon Jun 27th at 4:23am 2005


I agree with this guy, but at the same time he irritates me. The "culture wars" are a wholly destructive force in society and this writer is just heaping fuel on the fire. Stating your opinion and comparing it to opposing view points is one thing. The open contempt this writer displays is entirely another matter, and rather irresponsible.


Some people are like slinkys...

They aren?t really good for anything, but you can't help but laugh when one tumbles down the stairs.



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Posted by Cassius on Mon Jun 27th at 4:33am 2005


There is no goddamn culture war. Not all liberals are relativistic athiest communists. Not all conservatives are absolutist religious facists. In fact, very few from either "side" can be said to fit the extremes.

I also dislike it that "gene" has become today's magic word for explaining everything.





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Posted by satchmo on Mon Jun 27th at 6:04am 2005


To incite and agitate...isn't that part of the job of a journalist? Irresponsible or not, he's making people think and talk about the issues.

And true, genes don't explain everything. Otherwise, no one can ever be accountable for whatever he/she does. I also agree with the idea behind the movie "Gattaca", where the human spirit and free will trumps genetic pre-destination.

If you haven't seen that movie, I highly recommend it.



"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge



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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Tue Jun 28th at 2:20am 2005


? quoting satchmo
To incite and agitate...isn't that part of the job of a journalist? Irresponsible or not, he's making people think and talk about the issues.

And true, genes don't explain everything. Otherwise, no one can ever be accountable for whatever he/she does. I also agree with the idea behind the movie "Gattaca", where the human spirit and free will trumps genetic pre-destination.

If you haven't seen that movie, I highly recommend it.

No, I don't think the job of journalists is to incite argument. Opinion is not journalism. Their job is to inform the public, not tell them how to think.

Anyone who has known a pair of identical twins could tell you that genes aren't everything! My brothers are very different people despite having exactly the same genetic code.




Some people are like slinkys...

They aren?t really good for anything, but you can't help but laugh when one tumbles down the stairs.



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Posted by SaintGreg on Tue Jun 28th at 3:37am 2005


Gattaca was a pretty incredible movie, I like the idea that who we are is not just what we are made of. Who we are is all of our choices, etc etc.



To get something to work, sometimes you just have to beat your head against the wall longer; the skin grows back, but the brick doesn't.

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Posted by Spartan on Tue Jun 28th at 3:59am 2005


It was irresponsible for him to interject his opinion into what is an informative article. But that's not what we are here to talk about.

I agree with the article stating that homosexuality is not chosen but genetic. However I do not thing it warrents it being overly exposed on TV and in public. Not saying that it is. The same goes for heterosexual themes. We show off way to much sex on TV these days. I don't see sex as a taboo but I don't think it is appropriate either to be showing it off on public TV for kids to see.

This is the reason there are more and more teen pregnancies.

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