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Posted by ReNo on Thu Jul 7th at 10:47pm 2005

What do you mean by free updates? You DO get free updates for the games you bought, you DON'T get the games you didn't buy for free. And you DON'T have to fork out ?10 for every mod that Valve release - just the ones you want to buy - how else would you rather they did it? If you wanted DoD:S and HL:S, you could have got silver or gold instead of bronze, so you can't begrudge them charging bronze owners extra to get them when that was the whole idea behind offereing different packages. Again, I'm not talking about retail owners, but the people who bought the bronze package.




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Posted by Windows 98 on Thu Jul 7th at 11:34pm 2005

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Posted by G4MER on Fri Jul 8th at 6:57am 2005

Just played it a couple hours ago.. It has great detail.. but the map still sucks.




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Posted by Andrei on Fri Jul 8th at 10:53am 2005

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Andrei - why should the people who bought the bronze package get it free? Its part of HL:S, which the bronze package doesn't include. Should people who paid less just get everything that others purposefully paid more to recieve? As I said before, I sympathise for those who bought the retail version due to their lack of options, but those who bought the bronze package online have no argument to be honest. There SHOULD be the option for people who bought ANY package to upgrade however, or purchase any of the games included in other packages seperately over Steam.


I just think it's unfair for us retail owners (because yes, I own the retail pack, but feel even more sorry for those with bronze like my brother) to get punished with HL2DM which valve don't seem to give a rat's a$$ anyway while you ppl get a nice new shiny mod in the near future which will most likely guarantee that HL2DM will get even more niglected than it already is. If someone bothered themselves to make a decent mod out of HL2DM, so that we can all be happy, I wouldn't care at all about HL1DM but Valve really don't seem to give any importance to the poorer people who got retail (don't imagine i've bought the retail pack because I was a cheapskate).





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Posted by wil5on on Fri Jul 8th at 10:59am 2005

I had a go just now. It looks nice, framerates arent great tho.

I'm getting tired of these minor updates theyre releasing every week. Now everyone looks like midgets, the original player models werent so bad they needed to be changed/




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Posted by Andrei on Fri Jul 8th at 11:29am 2005

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Just played it a couple hours ago.. It has great detail.. but the map still sucks.


That's funny, I feel it sucks even harder than the original. I dunno, if it weren't for the title I would have never figured out that's cs_assault. It feels much tighter. Assault was an open map and that's what made it "special". <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">




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Posted by Myrk- on Fri Jul 8th at 1:47pm 2005

I bought retail because my internet was crap, and I couldn't exactly download the whole game on crap net, woulda taken weeks! I think there should be an option for retail owners like me to upgrade to Silver or whatever. I think its disgusting what Valve are doing with the whole situation, and a massive lack of information. If I'm not mistaken they got sued because they didn't state clearly enough on the packaging that you needed an internet connection to be able to play the game.

But heres a question to UK people- how much did you pay for the silver package?




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Posted by Andrei on Fri Jul 8th at 2:21pm 2005

I bought retail because I couldn't afford any of the other packages, though even if I had the money atm, I'm not sure I would have bought silver anyway mainly because of the price difference and the fact that I had already played and finished HL1 about 5 times, so HL:S was, in my opinion, a waste of my money. Nowhere did it mention that we wouldn't have access to upcoming mods with the retail pack; I have the box right under my very eyes as we speak .




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Posted by Myrk- on Fri Jul 8th at 2:32pm 2005

Yer I just checked Andrei and I didn't notice anything saying we couldn't get updates- but then again theres nothing saying we can :P


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Posted by wil5on on Fri Jul 8th at 2:35pm 2005

I bought the collectors edition retail, its got HL:S, so does that mean I'll get HL1DM:S?


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Posted by Vix on Fri Jul 8th at 2:58pm 2005

I don't like the new cs_assault. It may be a beauty or very detailed. But CS:S is not a single player game, so they cannot make 'heavy' maps when it's supposed to run smoothly. It doesn't. It's laggy when you are playing with 20 players, i don't like that, i prefer an empty and playable map than an 'excessive' one. We all can't afford high-top graphics card... I play CSS almost every day and from all the official maps, this is the worst i think. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">

If anybody cares i have an Ati 9800 pro card.




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Posted by fraggard on Fri Jul 8th at 3:12pm 2005

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Yer I just checked Andrei and I didn't notice anything saying we couldn't get updates- but then again theres nothing saying we can


Is there a way to purchase only the new updates separately? Otherwise steam just became a whole lot less useful than the crap it already is...




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Posted by Andrei on Fri Jul 8th at 3:15pm 2005

I doubt it. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">




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Posted by habboi on Fri Jul 8th at 4:22pm 2005

All I care about is the new props and textures they give us <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">
Did anyone notice the hollow box in the void with a boot in it? I shot it and it dissapeared...Perhaps it unlocks a secret?



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Posted by Windows 98 on Fri Jul 8th at 5:09pm 2005

i thought the 9800 pro was a top quality card?



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Posted by G4MER on Fri Jul 8th at 6:12pm 2005

the 9800 pro is starting to be obsolete.. as are geforce 4 cards. Sad but true.

As for the Package deal.. If you got retail your already a Gold or above member, and have full access to all Valve games and mods.




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Posted by Andrei on Fri Jul 8th at 8:34pm 2005

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Did anyone notice the hollow box in the void with a boot in it? I shot it and it dissapeared...Perhaps it unlocks a secret?


Or perhaps it doesn't have any gib models. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> Who can tell ?




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Posted by Vix on Fri Jul 8th at 9:23pm 2005

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i thought the 9800 pro was a top quality card?


The 9800 pro is still a good card. I don't think it's obsolet yet, because i can play almost any game at med-high quality so well, and that's enough for me. But when you play on-line, the more people, the more laggy it comes, don't know exactly why, but i assume that the server's computer has much to do with it as the client computer do. I mean cpu power.




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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sat Jul 9th at 3:10am 2005

All the official maps run extremely well on my computer with max settings (even de_inferno) except for cs_assault. I mean -- I guess it's nice that they are pushing the visuals... but it's still not fun to have to tone down graphic settings to get a map to run as well as the other official ones.

As for the map itself, it definitely took some getting used to. Something about the 3D sky box and visible but unaccessible areas made me keep trying to run away from the wearhouse after spawning CT side. I kept heading into dead end alley's because I felt like that's how the map flowed. After a couple of rounds I got used to it though.

I liked the new railroad overpass thing.

I didn't mind the shadow overlays.

The detail makes it harder for me to scan the insides as an assaulting CT, making it even harder to attack. One of the things about the old assault was that if a group of you rushed front door you could do well... but now I find it hard to pick out the T's quickly during a front door rush, which... leads me to die often.

There's so much stuff I'm not used to seeing yet I guess.

I'm sure my opinions will change with time.




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Posted by Major Mike on Sun Jul 10th at 2:20am 2005

I have a Radeon 9000 and have most settings set to the max with little trouble in game.




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