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Posted by im.thatoneguy on Sun Jul 24th at 4:28am 2005

It gets better here was a quote I read in the news today from I believe the mayor of livingston:

"?The police acted to do what they believed necessary to protect the lives of the public,? he said. ?This tragedy has added another victim to the toll of deaths for which the terrorists bear responsibility.?

So not only are terrorists killing people directly, they're also (indirectly responsible) for us killing people as well. So we shoot him and it's their fault. I'm sorry but while the shooting may very well may have been a responsible action on the part of the police, let's not blaim terrorists for our actions at least.





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Posted by Leperous on Sun Jul 24th at 9:13am 2005

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn't it. Given that he came out of a house under surveillance because there were possible links with the (failed?) terror attacks, and then for some reason ran onto the tube despite being told to stop by the police, I'm not surprised to hear he was shot, and am glad that the police are doing their job properly. Pretty stupid thing for him to do, don't you think? Maybe 5 shots into him sounds excessive, but what do I know, I'm not a Policeman.





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Posted by rival on Tue Jul 26th at 3:55am 2005

i agree with lep he was told to stop and didnt. of course to police are going to shoot him eight times. i think that police should be given more rights in britain. if that had happened in america to police would have been praised. those armed cops in london did what they felt at the time they had to do to protect the public. i respect them for the job they do.





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Posted by DrGlass on Tue Jul 26th at 8:36am 2005

I agree, but it may not have been as simple as:

"ay there ol' chap, please stop in the name of the law"

"bugger! I'm from Brazil... AHAHAHAHHAHA"

"I do say, he ran away!"

*bang*


Who knows, the cops could have just yelled STOP and that guy though trouble was afoot so he ran.

Blair put it well though, 'If they hadn't shot him and he blew up a bomb, then you would be attacking the police for not shooting him'




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Posted by im.thatoneguy on Tue Jul 26th at 9:22am 2005

I am observing an arguement... but I don't see anybody disagreeing...



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Posted by fishy on Tue Jul 26th at 1:16pm 2005

? quoting Leperous
and then for some reason ran onto the tube despite being told to stop by the police, I'm not surprised to hear he was shot, and am glad that the police are doing their job properly. Pretty stupid thing for him to do, don't you think?

people run away from the police each and every day, but i've never heard that proper police procedure was to shoot them in the head seven times.




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Posted by Agent Smith on Tue Jul 26th at 1:50pm 2005

? quote:
ran onto the tube


I think this is the key point. He wasn't just running down the street, he ran into the tube, which is where most of the bombings have occurred.



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Posted by jake on Tue Jul 26th at 1:51pm 2005

Not every person that runs from the police is suspected of carrying a bomb strapped to his body. If he had been a suicide bomber then the policemen involved would have received gallantry medals for protecting the public at great personal risk, as it is they will be slagged off for being trigger-happy maniacs. What a shame.



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Posted by fishy on Tue Jul 26th at 9:38pm 2005

? quoting Agent Smith

? quote:
ran onto the tube



I think this is the key point. He wasn't just running down the street, he ran into the tube, which is where most of the bombings have occurred.

think of every movie you've ever seen with a chase, and tell me if any of them involved running past a tube/subway/metro entrance, instead of into it.

anyway, i've got no problem with state sanctioned killings, as long as the right people catch the bullets. the intellegence has to be right, and on this occasion it was as accurate as the the intellegence that sent us into iraq, which sucks, and someone needs to be held accountable for it.

i don't think there's any suggestion of 'trigger happy maniacs', because the guys that pull the triggers can only act on what they've been told.




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Posted by Andrei on Tue Jul 26th at 10:25pm 2005

I haven't heard much of this story, but didn't the police yell at him to stop yet he didn't? I know he was Brazilian but even a man who doesn't speak english can figure out what HALT or STOP mean. If this is the case then the police did a good thing by taking-out a potential threat, even if it turned-out he was just a foolish tourist. Running away from the police is, after all, a tad suspicious.



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Posted by WarloK on Tue Jul 26th at 11:58pm 2005

The reason the guy is that he thought there was a bomber near him and the police where trying to protect him, but he new the metro-police cant shoot to save the world so he ran onto the tube where he new he would be safe from the random shots of the police, what he dident count on was being shot, so stood where he was, thinking the police were fleeing from the fight so he just acted natural which is when they held him down and shot him, 8 times.
What i want to know is why 8 times, surley he'd be dead from the first two?




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Posted by ReNo on Wed Jul 27th at 2:45pm 2005

I'm pretty sure it was actually just 5, and I don't think conserving ammo was top of their concerns anyway <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> Other than that, I have absolutely no idea what you were trying to say in that post <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> Take your time when you are posting - use grammar and sentences, and people will understand you better.




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