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Posted by Cyax on Wed Jul 20th at 11:14pm 2005

Ok, the modification has high potential, we already have about 12 models and a map or two. But to get this modification going, we need a programmer.

If you can program and are intrested please leave notice on our forums, or leave a post here.

www.Medultile.com

Medultile is a Role-Playing Adventure modification for Half-Life2, you will be able to wield and equip epic armors and weapons; defeat perilous foes, and counquer cities. Choose from six unique races, and venture the dynamic world; a world never seen before. Level up and raid your foes' civilizations with allies; or deathmatch on special death-match specific maps, and various quest maps.

In an age of Chaos, which side will you join?

Not to limit to just programmers, we could also use anyone of any other field. If you are intrested and have no talents, you can join our community and support us by checking up and leaving posts on our forums!

Thank you.





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Posted by ReNo on Wed Jul 20th at 11:22pm 2005

Oh dear, is this an MMO? Mod teams trying to make MMO's are just sealing their own fate.




Designer @ Haiku Interactive | ReNo-vation.net



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Posted by Cyax on Wed Jul 20th at 11:23pm 2005

Sorry, but could you define the acronym MMO?





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Posted by ReNo on Wed Jul 20th at 11:26pm 2005

Massively multiplayer online game, as in a game like WoW or Everquest or whatever. Games in which thousands of people can be playing online together.




Designer @ Haiku Interactive | ReNo-vation.net



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Posted by Cyax on Wed Jul 20th at 11:28pm 2005

Oh, it is not... There will be many various servers all on different regions of the world. We have already a list to stop hackers/cheaters in every angle.

Message submitted 11 minutes after original post:

Now, that is clear. Please refer to original post for further replies.



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Posted by Myrk- on Thu Jul 21st at 12:24am 2005

Yer its an MMO then... Games like Guildwars with about 20 servers worldwide. And on your site you have 1 unskinned model of a sword... Hardly gunna attract anyone!

And yes, you are in need of some pro-grammer Help if you could spell desperate correctly...




-[Better to be Honest than Kind]-



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Posted by Cyax on Thu Jul 21st at 12:51am 2005

How is my grammer bad when you use gunna and yer? What does gunna mean!? Sorry friend, but flaming me is not needed. It is not a MMO, if you were literate you would have realized that with my previous post. If you looked on the forums there are posts of maps and models. Thank you for being ignorant. Also thank you for your previous post, it was absolutely useless and guided no point at all.

Good to see there are people like you around, thanks!

Message submitted 8 minutes after original post:

Why it is not a "MMO" for those that are ignorant as the poster before my posts.

The Modification leader says:

: they are wrong about MMO

: and MMO is where thousands of people can play in one actual server...

: not like HL2 where servers will be like 32 people max

:A massively multiplayer online game (MMOG) is a type of computer game that enables hundreds or thousands of players to simultaneously interact in a game world they are connected to via the Internet.
: 1000 of peopel arnt playing simultaneously on one server in HL2

There you go? Now we can focus on the main point of this thread, please don't pointless flame like the ignorant fool, Myrk- just previously did, because you will look like the true person needed to be flamed.





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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Thu Jul 21st at 1:30am 2005

There's a difference between pessimism and realism. Believe it or not, they're trying to help you. I think many of us have enough experience in modifications to know that this isn't going to work even if you do have a programmer or team.

It's way too ambitious and tries to do far too much. Ironically, the concept isn't very ambitious itself; why do you want to make your own version of Diablo 2 / Guild Wars for Half-Life 2? It's like making a first person shooter mod for Warcraft 3, and it's not playing to the engine's functions or strengths.

Professional development studios with funding and experience have failed with games like this. Why would a group of hobbyists spread throughout the world have any better of a chance?




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Posted by Cyax on Thu Jul 21st at 2:33am 2005

I'm not intrested in your critism, or thoughts on the modification; I'm looking for people to join the team, not to destroy the team. If you have no intrest in joining, do not leave a post on this thread.





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Posted by ReNo on Thu Jul 21st at 2:42am 2005

Its easy to see why the comparison was drawn though, you must admit. The six playable races are, lets face it, completely standard fare, and together with talk of "PvP, quests, guilds, raids" and what have you, it sounds exactly like every MMORPG out there.

If its not an MMO but does have persistant characters, how are these characters going to be stored securely? That would need a dedicated server for all other servers to communicate with, or just keep things client side and face players using hacks and exploits to unfairly soup up their characters.




Designer @ Haiku Interactive | ReNo-vation.net



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Posted by fitch_jake on Thu Jul 21st at 3:17am 2005

Cyax,
I am very interested in this mod, I feel it is an exellent idea and is a great way to bring in other types of mods into the hl2 engine. It sounds like quite a big project and concept as I've read, but in the end big concepts are great concepts.
I am looking into joining the team and have about nine years modelling experience and have been wondering when a mod like this would come out. Please contact me regarding my joining the team and if you are still looking for modellers. You can contact me via AOL Instant Messanger, 'fitchjake'.

-Fitch_Jake




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Posted by Cyax on Thu Jul 21st at 3:20am 2005

I'll see what I can do for you, register on the forums. The modification leader is currently on AIM, I'll hook you up with him. Thanks for your intrest and submission to our cause.



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Posted by Dark_Kilauea on Thu Jul 21st at 4:48am 2005

I might help you guys when you show a little more promise, and when I have more time to map. I am experienced with large outdoor maps, with 8 years of mapping experience with all kinds of engines.

Unfortently, what you are trying to do is not going to be easy. It's going to take a lot of work and most likely, you will fail. But, dispite all that, I will try to lend you a hand when I am able. Cuz I know, sometimes the impossible just happens.

Until later... ...good luck.

[edit] By the way, Your site looks unprofessional and needs to fit the theme more. That's probably going to drive people away until you fix it...



Dark_Kilauea
DVS Administration
http://www.dvstudio-production.com/



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Thu Jul 21st at 4:51am 2005

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Cyax,
I am very interested in this mod, I feel it is an exellent idea and is a great way to bring in other types of mods into the hl2 engine. It sounds like quite a big project and concept as I've read, but in the end big concepts are great concepts.
I am looking into joining the team and have about nine years modelling experience and have been wondering when a mod like this would come out. Please contact me regarding my joining the team and if you are still looking for modellers. You can contact me via AOL Instant Messanger, 'fitchjake'.

-Fitch_Jake


Is it just me or does this response sound like total s**t? I'd check the IP if I was an admin, it just doesn't add up.

Good luck with the mod you devious bastard. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">




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Posted by Captain P on Thu Jul 21st at 11:29am 2005

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Is it just me or does this response sound like total s**t? I'd check the IP if I was an admin, it just doesn't add up.

Good luck with the mod you devious bastard.


Exactly my thoughts...

Seriously, I've read that a MMORPG easily contains more content than 4 Quakes added together, leave alone the various design and programming issues (of which there are many, I've done a little research into MMORPG's). Plus the server costs and all (main reason for companies not to start a MMORPG, afaik).
I'm a programmer myself and I've been asked to help in a MMORPG team before. That was, say, 2 months ago. Right now that project is dead. We talked a while ago. I remember saying finishing a flat was impossible without knowing how to finish a shed first. He didn't get it, I think.
What I try to say is, do you really know what it takes to get a mod done, especially of this size? Any previous experience with modding teams? Any idea how long it's going to take and what problems usually appear on the short and long terms?

In other words... how serious are the chances that this will ever get done?

As for models, maps and stuff on the forums... no posts are displayed... Also remember that the site is the official way to show off your mod. A visitor shouldn't need to go to the forum to see shots. He expects that in the media section.



Create-ivity - a game development blog



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Posted by habboi on Thu Jul 21st at 11:37am 2005

I have to agree, I looked at the site and thought this isn't going to get done! One model :O

Seriously you need way loads of media to get coders, coding isn't easy and they don't want to waste their time on a mod thats going to fail.

Look at other mod sites and see what I mean!





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Posted by Myrk- on Thu Jul 21st at 1:08pm 2005

I don't think they realise that in order to do quests etc your gunna have to have server side info on a master server that is accessed. Having it client side is NEVER safe, no matter how good you think your coding is, theres someone better who knows more.

Alot of mod teams go way over thier head. Start simple then build the game up from there. Look at CS when it first came out! Crappy maps, simple gameplay, poor animation. But look at it now- a finely tuned gameplay that attracts millions, quality animation and a huge fanbase. You cannot argue that CS is the best mod, because there really isn't any decent competition out there! You gotta work from scratch, release the game, build it up tailoring to peoples comments- never try and release an amazing mod straight off, I've never seen that work.

I've seen plenty of mods fail and very few make a final product. Trust me I've been in many, many mods, ranging from Immediate Action for HL1, SOmod, Insurgency... bleh blah blah...




-[Better to be Honest than Kind]-



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Posted by Forceflow on Thu Jul 21st at 2:09pm 2005

Make your site look a tad more attractive ... So ... you've got one sword model. Isn't going to attract a lot of programmers to dedicate their time, is it ?

I don't had enough training myself to get into that kind of project, sorry.





:: Forceflow.be :: Nuclear Dawn developer



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Posted by keved on Thu Jul 21st at 2:41pm 2005

? quoting Cyax
If you looked on the forums there are posts of maps and models.

You're expecting people to register on the forum merely to check out these models and maps that have supposedly been done so far? Why aren't they in the media section of the website?

You can't seriously expect anyone with any talent to sign up to a mod after having been given virtually no information about it.

I don't wish to be unkind but the mod seems like many other mod ideas that appear to have been thrown together in an afternoon. If you spent more time on creating a more professional looking website (the current one sucks, frankly) along with more concrete & acheivable ideas, you will get a more positive response when you post on forums requesting help.

And if it was you who re-registered today as 'fitch_jake' and started a conversation with yourself to prove your point.... ...that's real sad.





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Posted by Cyax on Thu Jul 21st at 6:03pm 2005

And I repeat:

? quoting Cyax
I'm not intrested in your critism, or thoughts on the modification; I'm looking for people to join the team, not to destroy the team. If you have no intrest in joining, do not leave a post on this thread.






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