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Posted by Crono on Tue Jul 26th at 11:13pm 2005

Well it exists in all the speeds and form factors, but, ones you can buy are all DDR. RDRAM is more expensive. NewEgg has a 2GB stick PC2700 (333Mhz) for 300, 400, and 500 dollars. Which is ridiculous, because they all have lifetime warranties and surprise surprise the $500 one is Corsair. Can you guess which one is the $400 one? It starts with a 'K'.

I suspect people don't carry anything faster in that size since it's expensive. They wouldn't make money carrying a part no one can afford. That's why you don't see it anywhere.

Any other questions?


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Posted by satchmo on Wed Jul 27th at 1:08am 2005

What about eMachines? Their case is so non-standard that in order to replace the noisy power supply, you have to saw a hole in the metal case to install it.

But I bet very few SnarkPitters have eMachines anyways. They are for noobs and non-geeks.




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Posted by Underdog on Wed Jul 27th at 1:11am 2005

I saw an eMachine once, while I was spending the night at a holiday in express.

Both were dreadful.




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Posted by Senshi on Wed Jul 27th at 3:14am 2005

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since RDRAM has the advantage of being so fast maybe take two of the RDRAM sticks out put in two 'normal' 512mb Ram sticks in and boom you got 1.2GB of Ram with the added bonus of 256mbs of it being significantly faster.


Woaaaah, RAM doesn't work like that. A mobo that supports RDRAM will not support any other type, and whatever speeds the modules are, they all run at the same speed of the slowest module.

So even if it was possible to add DDR RAM for cheap, it would defeat the purpose of having RDRAM in the first place.

Its a bit of a pickle <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">



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Posted by French Toast on Wed Jul 27th at 3:34am 2005

Toshiba!



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Posted by im.thatoneguy on Wed Jul 27th at 4:44am 2005

Dell had nothing to do with it. If you want to blaim anyone, blaim Intel. RDRAM was pretty much all their doing, trying to beat AMD's hyper transport system. AMD was and still is kicking Intel's ass when it comes to memory bandwidth. Intel tried to cut a corner and released a proprietery RAM system to play catch up. Only problem is, like most things intel does, instead of taking the slow, cost effective route to solving the problem, they just brute forced it with expensive components. Unlike AMD who has such a small market share and has to make do with less, Intel, made do with more and then passes on the expense to it's customers.

Dell notoriously is an Intel only company, for about 1 month they evaluated offering AMD, but then decided to just stick Intel. So for a good amount of time there, most Intel systems were RAMBUS especially high performance PCs.

The only person you have to blaim is yourself for buying into an expensive performance boosting technology that would cost you in the long run.





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Posted by fraggard on Wed Jul 27th at 12:34pm 2005

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RDRAM was pretty much all their doing, trying to beat AMD's hyper transport system. AMD was and still is kicking Intel's ass when it comes to memory bandwidth. Intel tried to cut a corner and released a proprietery RAM system to play catch up. Only problem is, like most things intel does, instead of taking the slow, cost effective route to solving the problem, they just brute forced it with expensive components. Unlike AMD who has such a small market share and has to make do with less, Intel, made do with more and then passes on the expense to it's customers.


And here I was thinking RDRAM is created by RAMBUS.

You got part of it somewhat right though. Intel and RAMBUS had a strange agreement early on that forced Intel chipsets to use RDRAM. That fell out after RAMBUS became a general pain-in-the-ass.

PS: As an ex Intel Fanboy I can tell you that Intel focused more on the cache bandwidth issues while AMD focused on memory bandwidth. Both approaches seem to have comparable effect on final performance. Intel's issues are elsewhere, like core temperatures and their harebrained Hardware DRM scheme.
Edit: Typos... Bah.




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Posted by rival on Thu Jul 28th at 9:18pm 2005

? quoting Senshi

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since RDRAM has the advantage of being so fast maybe take two of the RDRAM sticks out put in two 'normal' 512mb Ram sticks in and boom you got 1.2GB of Ram with the added bonus of 256mbs of it being significantly faster.



Woaaaah, RAM doesn't work like that. A mobo that supports RDRAM will not support any other type, and whatever speeds the modules are, they all run at the same speed of the slowest module.

So even if it was possible to add DDR RAM for cheap, it would defeat the purpose of having RDRAM in the first place.

Its a bit of a pickle

thats answered the whole point to the topic.




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