Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by Crono on Mon Jul 25th at 11:41pm 2005
It should. But everything will be running at the slower speed.
Also, that's some high grade ram. I don't understand what it's doing in a dell though. Rombus Dynamic Random Access Memory is used for "high end graphics and servers".
It's also pricey. About $100 for a 256MB stick. Well, if the current ram in your system will clock down without trouble, there's no need to worry. In any case if it doesn't work, just take it out! You'd still have a gig of ram running at 600 Mhz.

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Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by Myrk- on Mon Jul 25th at 11:51pm 2005
SuperCobra aren't you the same person who spent $8000 on a full license for XSI or something, and also claimed to have the best PC anyway? I'm sure it was you...
http://www.snarkpit.net/forums.php?forum=1&topic=4084&highlight=model,program
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Satchmo I cant buy a better computer I already have 1.
FX-55
4 gigs of ram
Nvidia 6800gt ultra 256mb ddr3
Sound Blaster Audigy 4 gamer
a nice very nice 7.1 setup.
What better could I get ?
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Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by SuperCobra on Mon Jul 25th at 11:53pm 2005
Best PC? I remember making a thread about WHAT WOULD make the best PC
but I dont ever remember saying I had the best......my PC blows the big
one.. and thanks for your help...o and 8000? I have never bought a
moddeling program in my life......I cant model.....
Message submitted 6 minutes after original post:
o excuse me I am sorry for lying
" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif"> yea I remember that

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Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by BlisTer on Tue Jul 26th at 12:07am 2005
? quote:
o excuse me I am sorry for lying

yea I remember that
i just had a good laugh with some episodes of coupling but you even manage to surpass that... lmao

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Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by rs6 on Tue Jul 26th at 1:31am 2005
The intel website, or Dell support should give you your answer on whether or not you can handle PC600. I'd say yes though, most mobo's are backwards compatible to some extent. But like Crono said your PC800 RAM would be clocked down to PC600, assuming it can.

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Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by rival on Tue Jul 26th at 3:23am 2005
all that dell do, usually, is brag about a great processor but everything else sucks. the one that i got had an okay pentium 4 at the time but one of the worst graphics cards you can get that isnt integrated and only 128mb ram. i could do nothing in the way of gaming on it. i spent money upgrading it and it now can just run hl2.

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Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by rival on Tue Jul 26th at 5:05am 2005
quoting 'howstuffworks.com':
RDRAM
Rambus dynamic random access memory is a radical departure from the previous DRAM architecture. Designed by Rambus, RDRAM uses a Rambus in-line memory module (RIMM), which is similar in size and pin configuration to a standard DIMM. What makes RDRAM so different is its use of a special high-speed data bus called the Rambus channel. RDRAM memory chips work in parallel to achieve a data rate of 800 MHz, or 1,600 MBps. Since they operate at such high speeds, they generate much more heat than other types of chips. To help dissipate the excess heat Rambus chips are fitted with a heat spreader, which looks like a long thin wafer. Just like there are smaller versions of DIMMs, there are also SO-RIMMs, designed for notebook computers.
it sounds pretty damn good why dont you like it?

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Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by SuperCobra on Tue Jul 26th at 5:56am 2005
because it is so damn expensive thats why.....

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Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by habboi on Tue Jul 26th at 8:39am 2005
Dell works fine for me is much better than *shudders* Gateway :S

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Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by im.thatoneguy on Tue Jul 26th at 9:20am 2005
I'm really failing to see Dell's Fault in all this.

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Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by SuperCobra on Tue Jul 26th at 3:54pm 2005
ok would you like to ONLY be able to spend 350$ for 1 gig of ram on
your PC when if you had a mobo that supported DDR ram get you a gig for
85$? Go do your research. Dell was trying to make RDRAM a success and
dell just wanted YOUR money for this stuff and they got alot of peoples
money.....RDRAM is REALLY hard to find nowadays and none of the newer
mobos support it

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Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by rival on Tue Jul 26th at 5:43pm 2005
maybe i got this wrong, but are you wanting to replace the 512 mb of RDRAM you already have with 1 gig?

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Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by rival on Tue Jul 26th at 6:41pm 2005
since RDRAM has the advantage of being so fast maybe take two of the RDRAM sticks out put in two 'normal' 512mb Ram sticks in and boom you got 1.2GB of Ram with the added bonus of 256mbs of it being significantly faster.
wait, do they sell 1gb sticks of ram now or do you still have to get 512x2?

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Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by Crono on Tue Jul 26th at 8:30pm 2005
Yeah, RDRAM, in general, is faster then DDR. It's the multiplier or something like that. Be glad they didn't put a Xeon in it because then you'd need ECC ram which is really expensive.
Yes, they sell gig sticks. 2GB sticks too.
But, it is expensive, 256 Mb stick ranges from $95 (PC600) to $275 (PC800)
But, it's Dell's fault, since they specifically picked this chipset for their computers that will be sold to common households, thus making it easy for them to make money if they want to upgrade, since it's very difficult and expensive to do it on your own with these parts.
If you think this is bad ... oh man. You should see some of the things HP does. Like, having a filestructure on the HDD such that once it is wiped (partition deleted) it can't re-partitioned without HP tools, which are only available to HP. They all use onboard video too. Most of the boards are Micro-ATX form factor (meaning even if they have an AGP slot, and most don't, you wont be able to fit a video card in there, not to mention other drives)
It's really a bitch the way they set it up, but I suppose it's to protect their investment. If they built normal computers that people could easily use, they'd lose money. I believe Gateway did before they switched to micro-atx. At least that's the only thing I can think of why they were just gone for 3 years.
The only saving grace any of these companies have, except HP and Compaq, is that their first party monitors are usually really nice. The old Gateway monitors were terrible, but the new ones are pretty nice.
Just to ramble a little more: At Best Buy I found a 17" widescreen LCD Mac monitor for $299. Sadly, I don't have $299, otherwise I'd get one.

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Re: Ugh I HATE dell!
Posted by rival on Tue Jul 26th at 9:55pm 2005
whoa... a single 2gb stick of ram. DDR or RDRAM?

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