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Re: 100mbp/s internet
Posted by im.thatoneguy on Sun Jul 31st at 6:46am 2005


Well quantum will be the long distance goal, however we're already producing basic non binary systems, give them 20-30 years and I'm sure they'll be the norm, binary is just to restrictive to allow the level of advancement we're used to. Although it should be pointed out, that all computers for all time will at their core be based on an analog signal as long as electricity is our energy source... and I don't see that going away in the next couple of millenia.



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Posted by Crono on Sun Jul 31st at 6:59am 2005


Organic computer, eh? So, you're saying instead of playing DoD, you'll get a time machine and go back to WWII?

A non true-false system would be very difficult to work with, thus, I doubt it'd ever catch on in the same light current architectures have. Quantum computing still requires this true-false technique. Whether it be switches, binary, gnomes, whatever.

I think, however, the combination of some multi-processed/core architectures (Cell, for example) will bring great additions, and hopefully, replacements for current technologies. Combine that with quantum encryption over long distances (i.e. the Internet) and we'd have massive improvements on that front. I believe the on-line network would then be going so fast that the actual connections go faster then the servers or computers connected to them. The result is almost instantaneous transfer, but, obviously, bandwidth does become a factor and how many people can be supported.

But, sadly, all of this is a ways away. There are some quantum servers coming out this year though from NEC, IBM, and Toshiba, I think.

Also, im, if you go by the consideration that using electricity means analog, which I'm not arguing or anything like that, then our bodies would be considered organic analog computers. Now, if we could just implement quantum organics in Human 2.0 ...



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Posted by im.thatoneguy on Sun Jul 31st at 7:05am 2005


Multiprocessors have the issue though of a central management system, which is why the core processor is mostly useless for video game applications, Inorder to have 3 processors working you need 1 processor to decide which processor is doing what, when and if it's done. It's the Dr. Seuss paradox of the bee watcher watcher.

The goal of a quantum system is to be able to send data not just as '11' for the number 3 but just send the number 3 in one single bit. Non Binary computing would free up memory bandwidth by orders of magnitudes.

And yes that was my point, that all computers are is analog electrical engineering, therefore it doesn't matter if you have a "pure digital" tv set made last week or an "analog CRT" made in 1990, it's all true HDTV.





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Posted by wil5on on Sun Jul 31st at 7:26am 2005


Any electrical signal can be interpreted as analog or digital. When measuring a voltage, if you have an analog meter, the deflection of the needle is proportional to the voltage. If you have a digital meter, it gives you a decimal approximation of the numeric value of the voltage. Just because the voltage can be anywhere from 0 to 5 doesnt mean the signal is analog. If the voltage is greater than a certain amount its interpreted as 1, less than that is interpreted as 0. This system allows a small change in voltage due to signal noise less of a problem, a 1 can fluctuate between around 3V and 5V without any loss of data. This is why pictures are higher quality, less effective signal noise. An analog TV will convert the voltage value directly to a picture displayed on the screen, through linear circuitry such as op amps, meaning that if the signal fluctuates, the picture fluctuates. I've heard of trinary computers before, which use 3 different voltage ranges instead of 2 for logic signals. These are faster, and generally use less bandwidth to send a given number, but are more prone to signal noise. Its also important to note that the voltages in computer memory also fluctuate (this is why you lose the data in RAM when you switch off), so this needs to be taken into account, and the memory needs to be refreshed more often. What youre suggesting with quantum computers (not a field I know much about) seems to be that each digit can be transmitted as an analog signal, ie. an infinite number of possible values. If there is no signal noise in a quantum computer, this is possible.




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