Posted by WarloK on Sat Aug 6th at 1:13am 2005
On June the 22nd (which is the day it doesn't get dark in inverness) 2004 an asteroid came dangerously close to the Earth. This said asteroid is en route to the Sun. Scientists say that the Asteroid will pass Earth again in about 23 years. Will it collide with the Earth everyone asks? Well just in case it does i have a few ideas on how to save the Earth.
1) When you take a magnifying glass and a sunny day and focus it on a rock then eventually vapour will start steaming off of it. I beleive that we could put a giant laser in space. The laser must be powerful enough to hit the rock with eneogh force to push it away from Earth.
2) We make a space probe that has huge long arms. when it meets up with the asteroid these arms can grip to the asteroid and small hydrogen fuel cells that can last a long time can push the asteroid away.
3) Blast it with a powerful rocket and hope that the peices of the asteroid will fall to Earth and cause minimum damage, perhaps put on a lovely deadly meteor shower.
Oh, i've been dribbling again.
Now lets hear your ideas on you to save the world in crisis
Posted by Dark_Kilauea on Sat Aug 6th at 1:22am 2005
#3 is the worst thing. Many hits on the planet is worse than one big one. But if the rock is big enough, it really doesn't matter.
My idea, don't worry about it, if it hits us, we're screwed, if it misses, well I can finish my map
Until Later...
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Posted by wil5on on Sat Aug 6th at 1:31am 2005
1) The laser would use up far more power than could be provided with whatever source that could be put into space with current technology.
2) It would probably be easier to drill into the asteroid somehow. For this to work, the engine would have to be very powerful, or we would need to know well in advance. Of course for any of these youd need to know well in advance, since we dont have any anti-asteroid measures currently on standby.
3) A nuclear explosion close to the surface could push it out of the way I guess. Similarly to 2, youd need to know years in advance, or shoot tons of nukes up there.
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Posted by fishy on Sat Aug 6th at 1:43am 2005
Posted by OtZman on Sat Aug 6th at 1:46am 2005
We'll be dead in a hundred years anyway.
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Posted by WarloK on Sat Aug 6th at 1:51am 2005
Perhaps karma will give us the good biscuit this time.
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Posted by Crono on Sat Aug 6th at 3:29am 2005
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But, there isn't much we could do, to be honest. There are crazy ideas that could be tried, but the entire planet would probably spend the entire crutial time arguing over which plan we should do.
I'd imagine that we'd be able to send groups of people with life support for some indeterminite amount of time into orbit. Possibly go underground and build the sturdiest structure possible.
Those seem like the more logical routes. Blasting the astroid wouldn't be a good idea for reasons DK pointed out.
Posted by fraggard on Sat Aug 6th at 9:36am 2005
We spend a huge chunk of our resources in figuring out more and more spectacular ways to kill large numbers of people from longer distances. I'm guessing that some of that money can probably be used to blow up a small rock in space properly.
Either that, or tell dubya there's oil on that asteroid.
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Posted by Crono on Sat Aug 6th at 9:39am 2005
I just don't know what is a worse fate.
Posted by DrGlass on Sat Aug 6th at 12:11pm 2005
I think the best way to get rid of it would be to sling shot a BIGGER astroid into it. But if we could do that then we might as well send your flying pigs to wish it away with positve thinking.
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Posted by Underdog on Sat Aug 6th at 12:22pm 2005
If I understand my physics correctly, (and BTW I know demolitions pretty well) The problem with blowing up a mass that size in space is NOT the tonnage of explosives. Its the very nature of space itself. The vacuum negates a rather larger percentage of the impact value of the explosive charges. Personally if I were going to attempt to deviate a chunk of rock, I would employ the bunker buster method and drive the explosive deep within the rock before detonation.
The problem with our nuclear arsenal is its designed for atmospheric detonation. We would need to create a different deliver system to effectively harness the power of nucleonics in any attempt at Texas sized chunks of rock.
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Posted by Windows 98 on Sat Aug 6th at 12:23pm 2005
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Posted by wil5on on Sat Aug 6th at 1:15pm 2005
Even though any munitions that could be delivered to the asteroid wouldnt cause any noticable damage, they could take it off course if used correctly. A bunker buster type bomb would be effective since it would send a stream of ejecta out of the side of the asteroid, thus imparting a fair amount of momentum to the asteroid (more than would be possible with a surface detonation). Done early enough, and with the correct angles, this could push the asteroid out of Earths way. The technical challenges would be pretty big tho, youd have to do NASAs Deep Impact mission all over again but with a completely redesigned impactor, strong enough to penetrate the asteroid surface and survive long enough to trigger detonation. This sort of thing hasnt even been considered by the armed forces of the world as far as I'm aware, so would have to be designed from the ground up. Also, as Underdog said, current nuclear warheads probably couldnt detonate in vacuum, a new system would have to be devised.
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Posted by Windows 98 on Sat Aug 6th at 1:36pm 2005
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Posted by Leperous on Sat Aug 6th at 1:53pm 2005
Giant trampoline?
I say that you should install a bunch of engines on it early enough (probably conventional ones rather than ionic), then capture and mine it to recoup the costs. There's no point in blowing it up, though perhaps you can explode some bombs in front (preferably with as much momentum as possible aimed towards the asteroid) to help slow it down further and set its course so that it's captured by the Earth's gravitational field.
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Posted by Underdog on Sat Aug 6th at 2:03pm 2005
In order to capture a rock of that size, it would either take more fuel than you could recoup, or do it in enough time that small nudges would suffice.
A rock the size of Texas would take decades of tiny nudges to accomplish. I do not think we would have decades to prepare however. Another problem would be retaining orbit. A rock that big would need constant thrust to achieve permanent orbital status. The only thing that can achieve permanent orbital status is Mother Nature. To my knowledge, nothing we have ever placed in space has remained in orbit. Everything has either fallen back, or required another push to remain up.
The moon however has sustained several Texas size impacts. Why not cause this rock to collide with it and gain more resources in that manner? Assuming the rock has any redeeming value.
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Posted by wil5on on Sat Aug 6th at 2:46pm 2005
Lep, planting engines on it could work but current technology isnt sufficient to either plant engines on an asteriod powerful enough to alter its course, or mine an asteroid.
Underdog, nothing is in permanent orbit. Space is not a perfect vacuum, therefore there is (very small) frictional resitance to bodies travelling through space. I beleive one of the moons of Neptune is going to collide with the planet in a few thousand years, and Earth's moon is slowly drifting away. Forcing an asteroid to collide with the moon rather than Earth is not only more difficult than making the asteroid simply avoid Earth, it is also potentially more dangerous, as there could well be moon bits falling out of the sky for years afterwards.
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Posted by ReNo on Sat Aug 6th at 3:35pm 2005
That a technical term? I'm gonna remember that one
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Posted by Windows 98 on Sat Aug 6th at 7:49pm 2005
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