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Re: Strange problem
Posted by DrGlass on Sun Aug 7th at 6:02am 2005


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When I play source I find that my +showbudget is jumping around like crazy.



as you can see, random items jump to make and my "fps" dips rom 60+ or -400! I dont see how fps can go into the negative... So, tell me you smart people, why is this happening? My net_graph shows normal fps, and I never really see any performace issues, though some times I feel a slight stutter.

I have up-to-date Drivers, what could it be? If need be I'll post my specs.




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Re: Strange problem
Posted by Crono on Sun Aug 7th at 6:22am 2005


Quit bitching if it doesn't effect performance. It's most likely some small bug. Unless it actually craps out on you when it for to -400 fps. However, you should know that's not necessarily a video problem, your system bus or processor could be too heavily loaded, but then you'd notice stuttering.

I'd suggest, if it's stuttering, to turn your stuff down. If your video card has 128Mb of ram, turn down texture resolutions, filtering, or whatever it's called. Then go to shadows. Those are the biggest hogs. (From that there's light then water, but both of those are fairly efficient)



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Re: Strange problem
Posted by SaintGreg on Sun Aug 7th at 6:26am 2005


valve bug, or clock timing bug maybe.



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Re: Strange problem
Posted by Underdog on Sun Aug 7th at 8:24am 2005


Do you get the same numbers with the netgragh command as well? If not, then I wouldn't worry. If so, then.......


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Re: Strange problem
Posted by DrGlass on Sun Aug 7th at 9:37am 2005


Crono your so mean <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif"> It just bothers me. I'll go in, turn all my stuff to its lowest setting and see if it still happens. Though I doubt its my hardware, I have a 256mb gfx card and like a 1200 fsb, as well as 2 gigs of ram.

Maybe its my dule core 64 bit processor? Some one told me dule core was bad for gaming?




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Re: Strange problem
Posted by Crono on Sun Aug 7th at 10:35am 2005


Uh ... I wouldn't know why it would be "worse for games". If it's the AMD one, which I assume it is, it probably optimizes on it's own so the software doesn't need to be written for Duel core specifically. That's like saying, my car just doesn't perform well when I use Texaco gas, but is made to use Chevron gas. (Not to mention, the processor really has less to do with game performance then the common perception)

By the way, you should have your texture compression on medium then. Since, high is for 512 Mb video cards (I think). It's really pointless in any case because you don't notice the difference. It's just the quality of the texture in your video card memory. More memory means you can have "larger" textures. Nothing too important, but when the memory is being shared with visual information it can really bog down everything. I've noticed this is especially true in HL2, though.

I could explain some more, because large numbers mean nothing if they don't coincide properly (which isn't the case here). I don't know how the 64 X2 works, so, I can't really go into how its performance is affected by the system bus.



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Re: Strange problem
Posted by Foxpup on Sun Aug 7th at 10:51pm 2005


You appear to have accidentally converted your computer into a time machine. What you are seeing on your screen is 2.1 milliseconds in the future, and that's why your framerate is negative. Whatever you did, change it back before you screw up history, or before Valve thinks that your cheating.

Seriously though, that's just wierd. If it's not affecting performance, it's probably nothing of any great importance.



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