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Posted by Windows 98 on Tue Aug 16th at 5:35pm 2005

Ill end this whole thing right now (pointless posts that is)

First of all, it comes with encarta for free. Second of all, I cant make one because I cant pay monthly for it.



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Posted by Crono on Tue Aug 16th at 7:03pm 2005

Windows, why don't you consider upgrading your current computer instead of buying a whole new one. Salvaging parts is where the money savings begin!

Also, with buying parts, you don't have to buy everything all at once. Buy what you can when you can. Or, just save your money, the only guarantee there is that by the time you go to buy all the stuff it'll all be cheaper.

Also, just for the record, Don't buy Alienware. They're the only company that builds decent computers, but for Christ sake, they cost 3 times as much! For WHAT? They even stopped using really nice parts. Abit motherboard? I SPIT ON ABIT!!

There are more reasons not to buy a brand pre-built computer besides getting ripped off though. You'll notice a lot of parts they buy *cough*Harddrive*cough* are very hard to find because they're products that would never sell by themselves. Why? They don't work. Simple as that. And no Fujitsu hard drives DON'T work.

But, sadly, there are more annoying things ... especially if you EVER want to upgrade ANYTHING in the machine. HP has a handy little feature that doesn't allow the HDD to be wiped. It's very odd. Dell has it set up so if anything stops working in the computer ... including one of their many unneeded case fans: the machine will not boot ... or even turn on. You have to send it back to them ... that takes money and it probably won't happen within your warranty (I don't know if their warranties changed though)

Gateway .... let's just not talk about them.

Compaq is the worst. They're the kings of skimping on parts.

Something all these companies have in common is that if you built a identical computer it'd cost much less (we're talking hundreds of dollars).

On a side note: parts are friggin' expensive in the UK! That machine that KornFlakes put together is insanely expensive.

Bottom line: save money
This way, you'd end up paying less ... but, I'd really suggest upgrading what you have! List those specs and I'll show you how easy ... and cheap it'd be.


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Posted by Windows 98 on Tue Aug 16th at 7:54pm 2005

Cant I create a .bat that wipes my harddirve and reformat it? Also, The debate is not on how s**tty companies are. Its on "Should I buy it considering my circumstances"

And the reason I don't want to upgrade my computer that I'm using now is because this is my family's computer. And this is going to be my own personal computer.... up in my room... not to be bother to be getting off every 10 minutes so my sister can "put on an away message" like anyone cares about her. Or botherd by my brother saying that Ive been on long enough and he wants to play Guild Wars (like 30 minutes)



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Posted by fishy on Tue Aug 16th at 8:15pm 2005

win98, if your parents are willing to put their names to the contract of purchase from dell, surely they would do the same from a components supplier that offers the same deal. most suppliers that i've seen will give you credit terms if you spend a certain amount, which is normally way below the cost that you're contemplating atm.

though that being said, i still think it's a bad thing for someone so young to be jumping into a life of credit card debt. save your money and get the best that you can for it. you'll enjoy it more.




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Posted by satchmo on Tue Aug 16th at 8:23pm 2005

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So that kinda cuts out my custom computer because you cant pay for it monthly.

Exactly like Crono said, there is no reason why you should order all the components at the same time. Why don't you order the motherboard first, and then order the CPU, the memory, the HDD, the graphics card...one thing at a time. It's no different than paying monthly. In fact, it's more flexible. If you can't cough up the money for a month, just wait until next month when you have saved enough to buy the next component.

That's what I would do if I were in your shoes. Order things from NewEgg--I've had a great experience shopping with them. That's how I built my current computer.

I do warn you that there is a learning curve to build your own machine, especially if you haven't done it before. After I put mine together, it took me a whole month to troubleshoot it. You really have to be careful that all the components work together. I would call the manufacturers one by one to confirm compatibility issues.

I got a memory (Kingston) that was incompatible with the motherboard (ASUS), and it was very difficult to troubleshoot that. I kept on thinking it was the graphics card that was giving me grief (Radeon 9800 Pro).

But now I love my computer, and even I treasure the nightmare that I had with the troubleshooting process. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">




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Posted by Windows 98 on Tue Aug 16th at 8:49pm 2005

Sorry I only read the first part of your comment Sachtmo, the reason Im not buying it seperatly is because im impatient and I want one now. Rather in 3 years (about how much it would take to accumulate the money)



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Posted by Crono on Tue Aug 16th at 9:13pm 2005

No, you don't understand. I mean, it's a hardware thing. It can't be re-formatted or partitioned ... which is why I said "wiped".

Uh ... it wont take you three years to save up that kind of money. You're forgetting, if you payed and built it yourself it will cost hundreds less.

Right now, you could buy a 6800 Ultra, AMD 64 Chip with a MSI board (Creative Labs 8 Channel sound) for under $600 ... That is better then the machine you put together up there. And those are the main components (minus ram of course)

I'd suggest shelling out, eventually, to get the main parts. And, also, Dude, you're 14 ... milk Christmas and birthdays! (Or whatever holidays you may practice) Also, if you do a "pay plan", couldn't you have your parents pay upfront, then you pay them? That sounds like what you're describing anyway.

In any case, if you're really working at getting money for something ... just wait. If it'd take you three years to save up enough to build it on your own, imagine how long it'd take you to pay off a computer that's over $1000! Not to mention ... if you miss a payment you're going to get reamed with charges.

The only "problem" in this situation really is that you're impatient.


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Posted by Windows 98 on Tue Aug 16th at 10:41pm 2005

I guess I should just milk Christmas, Hannukah, and Birthdays. Though I did just have a birthday and spent all the money on a PSP ^_^



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Posted by rs6 on Tue Aug 16th at 11:20pm 2005

You can start working at 14.......thats what I did to buy my machine. I was 15, bought it on credit from my dad ($700 all together) and gave him my paychecks for the next 7 monthes.



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Posted by Windows 98 on Wed Aug 17th at 12:25am 2005

Didn't I say that im getting a job in jaunuary. Im reffing little kid hockey games. But until then I dont have a job



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Posted by mazemaster on Wed Aug 17th at 1:20am 2005

My suggestion is to set your price first, and then try to get the best machine you can for that price.

Its a much better strategy that what you are doing IMO.


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Posted by Crapceeper on Wed Aug 17th at 7:41am 2005

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Didn't I say that im getting a job in jaunuary. Im reffing little kid hockey games. But until then I dont have a job

Then you should be patient. It's a learning process. A long road leads to patience. But.... hey: got a nice story:

Some time ago (when we were younger), a Buddy of mine wanted to purchase WorldOfWarcraft. I searched my trusted onlineshop and the price was decent. But they had a lot of enquiries; so it would have taken a couple of days for them to deliver.
Now he wanted to buy it at all costs, that day. So he got his moped, drove the the next city and went for that extra-expensive store. But they didn't have it in stock.

So he waisted gas, time and was pretty stressed out and disappointed as well.



The nutshell:
Being impatient doesn't do you any good. In fact: You hardly get the thing you want earlier.


And to go back to your question: "Should I buy it considering my circumstances"

The answer is: "No" - No brands at all; no prebuild if possible.

Crapceeper-
wishing you success


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Posted by jaardsi on Wed Aug 17th at 2:48pm 2005

Ordered a system myself just a couple of days ago, it should arrive next week. AMD 64 3200+, GeForce 6600GT PCI-E and so on... The total price with some OEM software was around 1000e.

I'm buying the computer from a local computer store just like my previous computer and I'm pretty happy with them. You generally just walk in, take a look around while waiting for your turn and then have short chat with the guy in charge about the parts and seal the deal when you're satisfied. They order the parts, assemble and test the system and eventually call to you and tell you to pick it up and finish the deal. Beats those preassembled brand PCs and is way easier than building your own + you get warranty and somewhat good customer service.




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Posted by parakeet on Wed Aug 17th at 5:01pm 2005

i got a new box first =p , filled it with crap for parts , and slowly worked up and now i've got an alright computer... though i had 1/15th the cashflow you've got



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