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Posted by Crono on Sun Sep 4th at 5:17am 2005

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whats manga, precious?


They're just Japanese comic books, traditionally black and white or grey scale. Practically every anime ... ever ... was first manga. Except the rare cases (Cowboy Bebop) where anime became manga.

If you want more information, look up "Osama Tezuka", who basically formed manga (thus anime) into what it is today. (AstroBoy, Buddha, Cyborg 009, Metropolis, Tetsujin 28, so on and so forth).

I know, one thing that turns people off of it is that when they think "Black and White Comic" they think From Hell or Sin City. Which is a completely different style.

I still think it's funny though, since Tezuka got most of his inspiration and style from Disney animation.

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Posted by Windows 98 on Sun Sep 4th at 5:21am 2005

Acually, Cowboy BeBop is the only Anime id ever be caught watching. MAYBE Full Metal Alchimist, but thats because im to lazy to change the channel off Adult Swim at night.



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Posted by Crono on Sun Sep 4th at 5:33am 2005

Full Metal Alchimist is overrated; it's okay.

If you think Cowboy Bebop is the best ... then you haven't watched much of anything. Bebop is a great show, though.

You want to watch something awesome, see Interstella 5555. So goddamned awesome. Legend of Black Heaven, I hear is good as well. The reason I mention both of those is that they're music oriented.


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Posted by Windows 98 on Sun Sep 4th at 6:14am 2005

I never said bebop was the best. And i didn't even say i liked FMA. But they are decent shows.

Id like to add that Inyuasha is a good show. Thats probably the only thing ive really gotten into for a time period.



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Posted by wil5on on Sun Sep 4th at 6:34am 2005

Samurais and ninjas rock, yes. I'd forgotten about them. REAL ULTIMATE POWER!

I feel all anime is overrated. See my previous post.




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Posted by Nickelplate on Sun Sep 4th at 6:40am 2005

I always thought Anime was kinda gay. BOMBSHELL!!

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Posted by Dark_Kilauea on Sun Sep 4th at 7:25am 2005

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Acually, Cowboy BeBop is the only Anime id ever be caught watching. MAYBE Full Metal Alchimist, but thats because im to lazy to change the channel off Adult Swim at night.


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Posted by Crono on Sun Sep 4th at 7:59am 2005

I knew someone would bring up Trigun ... Trigun sucks. No way around it.


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Posted by Madedog on Sun Sep 4th at 12:20pm 2005

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・日本 優れた 邦 又 邦人 優れた 語.


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Japan pwns because they get like everything before us. Thats because they are the guinea pigs of the world. LETS TEST IT IN JAPAN FIRST! LOL!


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Posted by MisterBister on Sun Sep 4th at 12:25pm 2005

I do karate, and thats japanese =P.




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Posted by ReNo on Sun Sep 4th at 4:02pm 2005

Swings and roundabouts people. I guess some people just watch anime under the aspirations of "becoming japanese" and don't care if its actually providing them with enjoyment, but most people just watch it because they enjoy it. I don't need to be told by people that the anime I watch is crap, made for kids, or that the manga is SOOO much better - the simple truth is that if I watch something and enjoy it, I'll continue to watch it I'm not gonna give two s**ts about the repercussions on somebody's opinion of me by doing so. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean that thing has no merit or that there is something wrong with them for liking it.

And wilson, there is never any need to call somebody on an internet forum like this a geek - lets face it, we've ALL got a bit of geek in us if we are interested in any aspect of game development, its about the one common thing that unites us all <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">

Crono, I've given manga a try in the past, but it didn't really grip me. Its probably to do with the fact I never enjoyed comic books, though as I was never interested in cartoons even as a child yet do enjoy a lot of anime, maybe its not really fair to use that as a basis. Much love for FMA by the way; unlike most anime I've seen it doesn't dwell on things too long, fill half the time up with flashbacks or unnecessary explanations (here's lookin' at you, Naruto!), or take 7 episodes to finish a fight <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> It's also got a pretty gripping storyline, loveable characters, and isn't afraid to be very harsh in unexpected ways once in a while. I've very few bad things to say about FMA, certainly one of the best anime series I've seen.




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Posted by Crono on Sun Sep 4th at 9:56pm 2005

I just didn't care for it, seemed too much like 90% of everything else out there. Not in the way of "filler", since that's what you're talking about, but, plot and "growth" it's just a little darker in some areas. I tend to like OVA series just because they have maybe 13 episodes to cover everything. There aren't that many series that go over 26 episodes. Only the ones that are overplayed here are the ones that have long lifes (give or take about five series)

I just get surprised that there's less people who like manga in general. Also, usually, the entire story is there. In a lot of cases though the only advantage is that the manga looks better throughout (dragon ball for example, manga is actually fast) But, in the cases of movies, the manga is completely different. It's like the difference between any movie based on a book and the book it's based off of. I'd personally suggest reading Akira, if you read anything. It's very good. The movie only covers maybe 1/3rd of the entire story, so, if you liked the movie, you'll probably like the manga, which is actually well fleshed out. The movie just feels rushed in some areas (story wise), however, it's so different that you could view it as separate.

Anyway, so, no. No one can answer me why?


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Posted by Nickelplate on Sun Sep 4th at 11:05pm 2005

When i said "Anime is gay," I pretty much meant that those people that ReNo talked about who watch it to try to be japanese are stupid.


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Posted by ReNo on Sun Sep 4th at 11:06pm 2005

I wouldn't like to put out a general answer as I'm sure it varies from person to person, but for me, I prefer just kicking back and watching anime on my TV to sitting at my computer screen scrolling through some scanned manga. I don't think it would make a difference if I actually had a physical copy either though - the medium just doesn't appeal to me.

I may well give the Akira manga a shot because watching the film you do tend to feel there was potential for more content and story there. Would be nice to be filled in a bit more. I really did feel like I was only getting part of the story through the anime, and that there was much more developed that just couldn't be slotted into a film format.

I see your point about short anime series and to an extent agree. When a series has a defined end point and a specific tale to tell, it can be far more focused in each episode. Oddly enough though, my favourite series have all been ongoing ones. Perhaps the reason is that as a series goes on longer, you can grow more attached to the characters. FMA with its 51 episodes probably struck it just about perfect for my tastes - long enough to grow very attached to the characters, but still with a fixed end point and with every episode serving a purpose (ie. no "s**t we caught up with the manga - lets throw in some crappy filler episode", a la Naruto <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">).




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Posted by Crono on Mon Sep 5th at 2:01am 2005

Yes, it seems Toriyama and Kishimoto stuff really gets filler up the ass. I believe usually because everyone loves their stuff so much that they begin making the anime series while they're still producing the manga. This is why Dragon Ball Z (specifically) has so much filler. His studio worked faster than Toriyama and his assistant.

Also, I really just want to find someone to talk to about the Akria manga. It's just a really wonderful story and MUCH more thought out and comprehensive then the film.
No one I know either has time or just refuses to read any comic that's void of color.

I would however like to see the watercolor print they did of Akira about ten years ago in the US. Because, the pages that are watercolor already are really nice.

Also, I kind of stray away from longer series because if I do like them, I'd probably be more apt to buy them ... longer series cost more. Then some of the ones that are short cost an arm and a leg (Trigun, for example, is well over $100, some places $200, here)


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Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Mon Sep 5th at 10:17am 2005

I liked Ghost in the Shell, but none of the other anime.




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Posted by OtZman on Mon Sep 5th at 12:33pm 2005

? quoting Pvt.Scythe
I liked Ghost in the Shell, but none of the other anime.

I have not read any of the other post but you should watch Cowboy Bebop, one awesome series.

I'd love to go to Japan too someday.




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Posted by Nickelplate on Mon Sep 5th at 10:02pm 2005

? quoting Pvt.Scythe
I liked Ghost in the Shell, but none of the other anime.

Ditto, except there was this one kids show I saw that was kinda fun, i dunno if it was anime but it was called "Avatar" or something.




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