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Posted by Junkyard God on Sun Sep 4th at 3:47pm 2005

hey, made a lil webby for when i start source mapping ,tell me what you guys think

http://www.freewebs.com/biopulse666

i took some random screenie og hl2 from google and edited that to create the banner , hope you guys like it, if not ,tell me what's wrong <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">




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Posted by Crapceeper on Sun Sep 4th at 5:51pm 2005

Looks okay to me. My JavaScript is turned off and the site works anyways. I like that.

You could work on the code a bit. Try using css. makes a few things much more easy.

And don't be worried about your spelling or grammar. Nobody's perfect.

Although: You need to consider: I'm not a webdesign pro - so my oppinion might not be as appropriate as another one.


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Posted by Captain P on Sun Sep 4th at 7:09pm 2005

Mhh... it has a consistent style and that's a good thing. It's also easy to access so you're well on your way.

I don't like the yellow on black color-scheme too much, it makes those bright yellow letters somewhat hard too read, eyes get tired after a while from bright colors. The contrast is a bit too high, I think. Also, that font isn't the easiest readable one too.

I see you're using divs, that's good. CSS would make it all a bit easier to work with, as Crapkeeper just said, so look up on it. It saves you quite some html and makes pages much easier to chance. Changing a single line in a .css file can save you rewriting tens of lines of html.

To conclude, you're on the right road, but it needs spicing up and can be done a little more efficient. Also, add some content... <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">



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Posted by Forceflow on Sun Sep 4th at 7:55pm 2005

You're constantly re-loading the menu thing on every page. That's a bit unnecessary, use some frames.

The top banner looks great, but the dividing lines should be dark grey or something, not plain white.

Good lay-out overall.



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Posted by Junkyard God on Sun Sep 4th at 8:36pm 2005

Thanks alot for these comment, they are very usefull, i'm reading up on css this very moment, but as i'm not a html guru or anything thise might take some time to learn.

I'm looking for a suitable font for the main content area ( maybe Tahoma ) and i'll defenatly change the white lines to a darker colour.

thanks <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">




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Posted by Captain P on Sun Sep 4th at 8:57pm 2005

Try using a font that you can be sure of most people have it. Otherwise you'll end up with a site that uses a default font for those people.

I'm a fan of arial myself. Broadly used because it's easy to read. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">



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Posted by Forceflow on Sun Sep 4th at 9:02pm 2005

Verdana for me. Font choice isn't th?t important, the browser will use the default font if the webby's font is not found or can't be downloaded.

If you want to have your font look the very same (size, margin, ...) on every page, I suggest using style sheets (CSS). It's the only way to have your fonts acting the same (grosso modo) in IE and Firefox.

On the other hand, CSS is all about details.



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Posted by Junkyard God on Sun Sep 4th at 9:08pm 2005

hmmz i think it would be good to make the text etc. work everywhere, i'll go see if verdana is nice <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> i'll try to get an updated webby out tomorrow <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">


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Posted by ReNo on Sun Sep 4th at 9:25pm 2005

You don't have to go anywhere to see if verdana is nice - its the font used on this website and it most certainly is nice <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> Verdana and Tahoma are my two picks of the font world; both are easy to read, quite compact, and very modern and stylish looking.




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Posted by Junkyard God on Sun Sep 4th at 9:26pm 2005

i just updated it , don't know if you caught the updated one or not lol, it's updated now though <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">


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Posted by Captain P on Sun Sep 4th at 9:41pm 2005

Yes, easier to read now, definitely.

The Home button in the menu doesn't work correctly, though. Gives me a Page not Found error.



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Posted by Junkyard God on Sun Sep 4th at 9:57pm 2005

aah yes, that's freewebs beeing bleh again, i'll fix it tomorrow, bit tired now hehe


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Posted by Crono on Sun Sep 4th at 10:16pm 2005

Yeah, it looks like the way you have it set up, it would work best by putting the "content" area in an iframe. I suggest an iframe, because it's easier to use and it lays ontop of everything instead of cutting up the page.

Colors are hideous. Sorry.

Try to make it fit on the screen all at once for a certain resolution (something like 1024 x 768) Easy way to do that is to make that banner smaller. Maximize the content area as much as possible ... it's the reason people are at the site.

With fonts, you can define many, many, many fonts. It's good to choose a primary and secondary windows font, then choose a Macintosh and other OS font to put in the list, so everyone can view the page.
Just use google to find lists with pictures of fonts

Define as much as you can in an external CSS file.

Don't use needless javascript.

All in all, it wouldn't take too long to make the site this way. (Less then an hour if you know what you're doing)


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Posted by Junkyard God on Sun Sep 4th at 10:55pm 2005

major change now on colors

i think it's better, i like red and black, suits my own style so i'm keeping these colours i think.

tell me what you think still though




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Posted by Crono on Mon Sep 5th at 1:51am 2005

Use more then 2 colors. The text really should be the only thing that color. Whatever that color may be.

Look at this site, for example, the text is pretty much the only thing that's white. The background is pretty much the only thing that's black. And everything else has a separate designated color. It gives a nice composition and it very pleasing to the eye. Your site, isn't, no offense or anything. You need more variation and seperation. I'm not saying replace the colors that or there, nor did I mean that before, you just need to add to it.

Anyway, keep working on it.


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Posted by Junkyard God on Mon Sep 5th at 8:26am 2005

might look into investing in some white text., but i like the dark style so maybe i'll keep it like this.

Anyone know how to set up 'relative sizes' Crapceeper recommended them to me as that would make it work in more resolutions, that would be pretty neat <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">




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Posted by Crono on Mon Sep 5th at 9:29am 2005

That's a style sheet thing (CSS). You can't do it with images, unless you make different images for each resolution, check the viewers resolution and load the proper image (bad idea, it's slow). Other then that, when using div tags or span tags, including many other things like iframes, you can assign classes (look it up) it allows you to define many things about the "object". One of which is width, height, and position. You can use percentages to make it resolution independant, but be warned, IE is a dick when using this aspect, it doesn't deal with it properly in my experiences. Mozilla does a nice job though. In any case, mess around with it!

Text size doesn't matter, it will be sized by the browser unless you give a specific value, but you're using tags like "strong" to make things larger, which is relative to the default size.


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Posted by Junkyard God on Mon Sep 5th at 9:50am 2005

hmmmz, i think i might jsut leave it this way then, as it seems like hard work just ofr people who crank up their res extremely high as most people jsut have it on 1024x768 anyways <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">


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Posted by fishy on Mon Sep 5th at 11:19am 2005

changing the home button to point at an html page (not htm) should fix your page not found error.




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Posted by Junkyard God on Mon Sep 5th at 1:51pm 2005

hmmz, i'll try that, the rest points to htm and does work odly though, but i'll give it a scoot <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

i also patched up the banner a bit ,the white glow was out of place so i made it red with black text witch i gave a slight blur to make it looks like the ligth was comming from no where :P hope you likey




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