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Posted by Crono on Fri Sep 9th at 3:15am 2005

If it's an action movie and there's crap loads of shoot outs .. I want to see people flying from getting hit by bullets.

I love the absolutely impossible physics of it. Especially in movies like Desperado and Last Man Standing. It's great.

What about games that do this? Does that rub you the wrong way too? I know in HL2, if you get under someone with a shotgun ... they fly pretty far. Obviously, this isn't realistic ... but who cares?

There are things that bother me though ... usually stuff with people getting hit in the throat, hard, and just kind of coughing is annoying. It's like, "Hey ... that 'closed' your trachea ... you're dead". Bad CG also gets to me image (I don't mean obvious CG ... I mean bad CG. Like ... the licker in Resident Evil)

Anyway, Real life is pretty anti-climatic anyway ...









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Posted by satchmo on Fri Sep 9th at 3:52am 2005

Yeah, but all that bad physics is what's making movies and games so fun to watch.

It'd be pretty dull if someone gets shot and just falls flat down, like in the real world. Where's the ragdoll fun in that?

If I want to see realistic reaction to gunshots, I would just drive to the sketchy part of town and watch the gang members kill each other. There are almost daily showings in Los Angeles, if you know where to go.



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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Fri Sep 9th at 4:06am 2005

? quoting Nickelplate
I bet a shotgun could knock someone over pretty good, though. I know what you mean about unrealistic stuff in movies. I always like it when a bad guy gets harpooned through the stomach and then stands up and starts to beat on the good guy.

Does the person firing the shotgun get knocked over? no. equal and opposite forces. At point-blank range both the man who fires the gun and the one who gets shot experience exactly the same net force. At greater ranges the one who fires the gun always experiences the greater force since the projectiles slow down in the air.

I do in fact agree with you, Crono. It is fun to watch. Since this is a trivia thread, and I know nothing about medicine, I was just speculating on what the most commonly violated physical law is.

What does bother me in movies is when they blatantly violate all the laws of thermodynamics as part of the plot! I'm fine with it when impossible things happen to make action sequences that much more interesting to watch, but I've always felt that a plot should bear some semblance to reality unless it is a fantasy world where you can explain things with "magic". As a consequence, I dislike most SciFi. It's kind of an anal, irritating hand-up, but there it is. *shrugs*




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Posted by satchmo on Fri Sep 9th at 4:16am 2005

One of my fellow residents from the hospital actually got a job as a medical consultant on movie and television sets. For example, series like "E.R." and "Scrubs" consult these real-life doctors to make sure that the medical scenario in the show actually make sense.

I don't think they have the equivalent for physicists though, Tracer Bullet.

Nevertheless, actors performing CPR, especially chest compressions, do it incorrectly nine out of ten times. Even emergency room doctors and paramedics carry out CPR in totally random fashions in movies and television shows.

Come to think of it, those scientists in Half-Life actually perform resuscitation quite accurately. Who would've thought.



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Posted by Crono on Fri Sep 9th at 5:07am 2005

Oh, I know. I was really just inquiring.

I think complete improbable stuff is fine in movies if they do one thing: NOT explain ANY of it. And there are times when I can let some things slip by (Jurassic Park's genetics)

Sci-Fi movies are great when nothing is really explained ... unless it's Star Trek or Stargate, then the shows just wouldn't be the same without some out-of-their-ass explination that makes no sense. How many times have you heard, "But newtonian physics says this ... quantum physics blows that out of the water" from Amanda Tapping in SG-1? <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif">

But, yes, when they blaintently ignore simple theories (like thermal conductivity) it's annoying ... especially when regarding explosives. I think the only actiony movie I've seen that really attempts to be realistic is the Bourne series. (The gas filled house with the paper in the toaster.)

Another cliche that really ticks me off ... except in PayBack, just because it's done well, is the lit cigarette ignighting gasoline.


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Posted by rival on Fri Sep 9th at 6:54pm 2005

w00t!
i got number 8 right!

? quoting WarloK

? quoting satchmo

7. What condition does the ?Elephant Man? most like to have?

7. Morpheus

I always thought he had Neofibre-mitosis.

by the way warlok claims he has got 'Extastosis'. i have always been sceptical of his 'bone disease' so i have to ask is it a real disease or maybe a mispronounciation?




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Posted by Cash Car Star on Fri Sep 9th at 7:30pm 2005

Progeria was the only one I knew offhand. That's partly due to Tad Williams' Otherland saga. Over half of the movies I've never seen, so it's unsurprising I didn't know those. I mean, I have to assume that I could easily pick out a heart transplant happening in a movie I actually saw...

? quoting "satchmo"
Nevertheless, actors performing CPR, especially chest compressions, do it incorrectly nine out of ten times. Even emergency room doctors and paramedics carry out CPR in totally random fashions in movies and television shows.
I've heard that this is partially for the safety of the actor playing the victim. Actors will bend their arms on the chest pumps, losing realism, but making it a much simpler production.





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Posted by Nickelplate on Sat Sep 10th at 12:11am 2005

? quoting Cash Car Star
Progeria was the only one I knew offhand. That's partly due to Tad Williams' Otherland saga. Over half of the movies I've never seen, so it's unsurprising I didn't know those. I mean, I have to assume that I could easily pick out a heart transplant happening in a movie I actually saw...

? quoting "satchmo"
Nevertheless, actors performing CPR, especially chest compressions, do it incorrectly nine out of ten times. Even emergency room doctors and paramedics carry out CPR in totally random fashions in movies and television shows.

I've heard that this is partially for the safety of the actor playing the victim. Actors will bend their arms on the chest pumps, losing realism, but making it a much simpler production.

It's not every day I meet someone else who has read Otherland. Most people around the area don't read for fun. I loved those books and have absolutely no one to discuss them with. Now that you mention it, I remember Thargor/that one kid I-can't-remember-his-name, DID have progeria. Nice.




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Posted by Cash Car Star on Sat Sep 10th at 7:40am 2005

It was portrayed totally different though. Whereas in Jack, progeria was pretty much just a "realistic" excuse for a Big style portrayal, in Otherland the kid was still the size of a kid, except with gray hair, wrinkles, etc. He was also completely and permanently bedridden by the time you get about halfway into the first book. I gotta think that's more accurate.

Otherland was a wicked sick saga, btw. I mean, I like what Tad Williams did in Memory, Sorrow and Thorn, but it was just nothing compared to Otherland. Just the sheer enormity of the world, and all its subdivisional cyberworlds is extraordinary. Add to that his ability to predict what cyber trends would occur before they actually happened (check the publishing dates, they completely predate any memorable MMORPG, and he clearly picks it as the middle school geek game of choice) and its just a mindf**k what he did with the thing. Add to that Michael Whelan's incomparable artwork. I have a poster of The City of Golden Shadows hanging above my desk.





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Posted by satchmo on Sat Sep 10th at 4:16pm 2005

Nikelplate, if you're into reading about medical themed stories, "Dreaming Water" is a captivating novel about a child growing old with Werner's syndrome, a genetic defect that causes premature aging. The story is also about racism and the relationship between a mother and her daughter.

It's a wonderful book, intimately portraying personal relationships as well as illustrating the ugliness of racism. I highly recommend it.



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