Isn't this what the ESRB and the RSAC are for? It says 15+ / 17+ / whatever for a reason.
Re: Virtual violence or virtually violent?
Posted by Foxpup on Wed Sep 14th at 1:38am 2005

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Posted by Foxpup on Wed Sep 14th at 1:38am 2005
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Re: Virtual violence or virtually violent?
Posted by moonracer1313 on Wed Sep 14th at 3:48pm 2005
Posted by moonracer1313 on Wed Sep 14th at 3:48pm 2005
Yes, I've thought of the retirement home gaming thing as well. If I
decide to take that route I'll definitely have a computer with me.
And yes, we've already hooked up wires directly to handicapped people's brains so they can control wheelchairs and computer mice. It is still quite primitive, but can be done.
I think a big concern to me is a lot of times either side will leave out the "children" focus and just fight the broader argument that violent videogames make people violent. As long as parents can overide any restrictions (like taking their kid to an R rated movie or allowing them a glass of wine for diner at home etc.) then I don't see a huge problem. We would just get a broader range of game types marketed to different tastes and age groups.
And yes, we've already hooked up wires directly to handicapped people's brains so they can control wheelchairs and computer mice. It is still quite primitive, but can be done.
I think a big concern to me is a lot of times either side will leave out the "children" focus and just fight the broader argument that violent videogames make people violent. As long as parents can overide any restrictions (like taking their kid to an R rated movie or allowing them a glass of wine for diner at home etc.) then I don't see a huge problem. We would just get a broader range of game types marketed to different tastes and age groups.
Re: Virtual violence or virtually violent?
Posted by Crono on Wed Sep 14th at 4:03pm 2005
Posted by Crono on Wed Sep 14th at 4:03pm 2005
Cameras. You forgot cameras.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: Virtual violence or virtually violent?
Posted by satchmo on Wed Sep 14th at 4:13pm 2005

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Posted by satchmo on Wed Sep 14th at 4:13pm 2005
That's exactly what I say to my parents all the time. I can't
imagine myself being bored after retirement. I have all this free
time, and no homework or work responsibilities.
It's gaming heaven. I imagine a big LAN party everyday. The old ladies can do what they want with themselves (knitting, buying kitschy stuff from the Shopping Network, etc), but the old guys are going have a blast deathmatching.
So what if we will have slower reflexes and less than perfect eyesight by then, we'll still have fun.
And certainly the age rating limitation wouldn't apply to any of us by then.
It's gaming heaven. I imagine a big LAN party everyday. The old ladies can do what they want with themselves (knitting, buying kitschy stuff from the Shopping Network, etc), but the old guys are going have a blast deathmatching.
So what if we will have slower reflexes and less than perfect eyesight by then, we'll still have fun.
And certainly the age rating limitation wouldn't apply to any of us by then.
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Re: Virtual violence or virtually violent?
Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Sep 14th at 4:51pm 2005

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Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Sep 14th at 4:51pm 2005
Ye'll be old a wee bit before me, but I won't mind whuppin' up on yer Geriatric ass, Satchmo. In fact, I hope when I am old, that I still know you guys. /me loves SnarkPit.
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Re: Virtual violence or virtually violent?
Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Wed Sep 14th at 5:40pm 2005
Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Wed Sep 14th at 5:40pm 2005
Don't forget... we'll all be wearing Depends (aka adult daipers) so we
never have to break for the bathroom. And hey -- if you
hook me up to an IV all I'll need is a few hours sleep!
Re: Virtual violence or virtually violent?
Posted by pepper on Wed Sep 14th at 5:55pm 2005
Posted by pepper on Wed Sep 14th at 5:55pm 2005
I recall seeing a documentary on discovery that had a article on mind controlled airplanes, the usa airforce was testing with it, so it doesnt look tofar in the future for me.
Well, all we can do now is find a politician that enjoys playing hl2dm. Or we make a mod in wich we can blow them up, nothing better then spend your time blowing up politician
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Re: Virtual violence or virtually violent?
Posted by moonracer1313 on Thu Sep 15th at 5:07am 2005
Posted by moonracer1313 on Thu Sep 15th at 5:07am 2005
Actually, I always pictured old folks playing MMORPGs more. So layed
back and time consuming. All that level grinding would be a
welcome time killer I imagine.
But I'm sure some of us geezerz will DM too.
But I'm sure some of us geezerz will DM too.
Re: Virtual violence or virtually violent?
Posted by satchmo on Thu Sep 15th at 5:16am 2005
Old people generally suffer from insomnia, so that's one less thing to worry about.
Man, why can't I have cool gaming grandparents now?

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Posted by satchmo on Thu Sep 15th at 5:16am 2005
? quote:
all I'll need is a few hours sleep!
Old people generally suffer from insomnia, so that's one less thing to worry about.
Man, why can't I have cool gaming grandparents now?
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Re: Virtual violence or virtually violent?
Posted by Crono on Thu Sep 15th at 5:23am 2005
Posted by Crono on Thu Sep 15th at 5:23am 2005
Wouldn't mmorpgs have the problem taking that a large percentage of elderly people have memory problems?
Also ... I heard something today and I have no idea if it's true or not (The claim, not whether the claim was made or not). Some doctor claimed that multi-tasking, as opposed to concentrating on one task, is detrimental to your long term memory. And could potentially lower your IQ (Which, I personally think is garbage to begin with. Kind of like the SATs ... I don't know what they're like now, but they don't take into consideration that you don't like exams)
It would probably make the most sense if you played adventure type games (Metroid, Sonic, R&C, etc) Since they don't require much knowledge or long term memory. You don't have stats and for the most part they're linear. (I'm speaking about the side-scrolling versions, if it applies)
Also ... I heard something today and I have no idea if it's true or not (The claim, not whether the claim was made or not). Some doctor claimed that multi-tasking, as opposed to concentrating on one task, is detrimental to your long term memory. And could potentially lower your IQ (Which, I personally think is garbage to begin with. Kind of like the SATs ... I don't know what they're like now, but they don't take into consideration that you don't like exams)
It would probably make the most sense if you played adventure type games (Metroid, Sonic, R&C, etc) Since they don't require much knowledge or long term memory. You don't have stats and for the most part they're linear. (I'm speaking about the side-scrolling versions, if it applies)
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Re: Virtual violence or virtually violent?
Posted by Nickelplate on Thu Sep 15th at 5:28am 2005

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Posted by Nickelplate on Thu Sep 15th at 5:28am 2005
? quoting Addicted to Morphine
Don't forget... we'll all be wearing Depends (aka adult daipers) so we never have to break for the bathroom. And hey -- if you hook me up to an IV all I'll need is a few hours sleep!
Just hook my catheter tube straight to my IV and then I won't need to drink!!!
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