The situations are not relevant other than to speculate on just how stupid people can be. If it makes you feel better choose one and act on it. Each one has nothing in common EXCEPT the act of stupidity.

If you like, I could reword them but you would have to be specific on exactly how so I would respond accordingly.

You are thinking to logically. In todays society it is now legal to sue someone for harming you, even if you were doing an illegal act in the process.

IE, you fall on a knife while robbing a home, you can sue the owner and win for causing you harm.

You can sue a fast food joint for burning you with hot coffee you yourself applied to your skin. ( A woman successfully sued and won her case after she squashed a cup of coffee between her thighs while driving out of the pickup window )

EDIT: perhaps this poll needs to be just a general topic?

It seems perfectly clear to me, but if it needs removed I can readily concede.

You seem to be deliberately missing the point. The total number of people permitted to sue is not the issue. The point was, why should the restaurant be at fault at all? The woman should by all accounts be totally at fault here.

Again I say, perhaps this should be a general discussion instead of a poll, in spite of the fact that I see the situation clearly enough to warrant the poll.

Why? Both are in a sense, premeditated. I see them as the same if you consider it in that light.

And, being a moron is another concept that doesn't seem to follow any specific mold. I imagine that the people whom sue, think those whom do not are morons.

The woman placed the cup between her thighs. The woman subsequently flexed her muscles and said cup folded under the onslaught. Said cup discharged its contents and the woman's flexing began in earnest.

She did not "spill" the contents.

Common sense is IMO an even more gray area process than people think. It may be peoples best decision to march down that alley or being gay parade their belief in spite of the bruising from the last beating.

The fact that people every day commit brain fartage clearly dictates a shortage of this common sense thing.

Common sense dictates that I not post this poll in this manner but...

Can ah getta Amen!

What really bothers me is that people are stupid, and then blame someone else for not protecting them from themselves.

All you "agnostics" from the other thread probably believe in evolution. If we don't start letting these morons kill themselves, they're going to pollute the gene pool and we're all going to go downhill in a spiral of genetic dilapidation until we all become dumb enough to NOT know how to keep these idiots alive, then we'll gradually climb up again. Cancer is a prime example. Genes make us more or less susceptible to it, and the genes are passed on by people who've had chemotherapy. they've survived long enough to have kids whereas in olden days they may not have, thus the gene pool is that much more prone to have to cancer-susceptibility gene. Same thing goes with stupidity, i think.

Think about it, in caveman days, if some lady goes up to yellowstone and sees a steaming puddle of boiling hot mud and "doesn't realize that it will be so hot" (analogous to the mcdonalds incident) and jumps in, she dies. No lawsuit, no repercussions except the fact that her stupidity stops immediately right there and is not propagated to anyone else, thus making our species that much better. This is natural selection at it's best, but with all the surgeries and the treatments that make individuals better, we make the species worse.

only when we can find a way to alter our genetics so that these genetic disorders are wiped out and not just patched over with plastic surgery or some kind of implant, will we will truly get better.