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Posted by French Toast on Wed Sep 21st at 11:12pm 2005

So I just pre-loaded DoD:S on my computer, as it looks so awesomely amazing, and it was a LAN party hit before.

I mostly just wanted to say that, and hear your thoughts as to the game so far. I realize that there is not much to report so far, as the game is not out, but when it's released hopefully we can talk about it.

I really just wanted to say I pre-loaded it, but hey, what are your thoughts on it?




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Posted by fraggard on Thu Sep 22nd at 2:03am 2005

Screenshots?



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Posted by French Toast on Thu Sep 22nd at 2:35am 2005

There are some new ones down at www.halflife2.net.




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Posted by Andrei on Thu Sep 22nd at 1:43pm 2005

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So I just pre-loaded DoD:S on my computer, as it looks so awesomely amazing, and it was a LAN party hit before.




So have I. I managed to rip some stuff using GCF scape, but don't be tempted to rip everything into the sourcemods folder.

Anyway, I see they're charging almost 20$ for it. I don't think a MP-only MOD is worth that much.




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Posted by KingNic on Thu Sep 22nd at 2:27pm 2005

A mod is a modification. A modification is a modification of a game, including some of the origional games materials and probably based on the gameplay of the origional game. DOD:S is not a modification. It's a brand new game. How much did you pay for Battlefield2? UT2004? They weren't single player games, they were multiplayer games and $20 for a multiplayer game is cheap. Hearing people talk about how DOD:S should be free cause it's a "mod" is incredibly annoying. It's not a mod, it's a full game. And unless the gameplay has changed considerably, one of the best multiplayer games around. Plus some of the best graphics I've seen short of Quake 4 & UE3, I think that's definitely worth $20.



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Posted by Andrei on Thu Sep 22nd at 4:03pm 2005

Unless it's stand-alone (which I doubt since a quick inspection of the dod.gcf and of several other folders tends to confirm this), DOD:S uses HL2 data files which haven't been replicated in the pack as to save disc space (not everyone has a DVD-ROM). It even uses "old" HL2 props.As for the graphics, it's just the HL2 engine but "coolafied" by some nice props and some shiny materials. HDR is an update brought to the HL2 engine via Lost Coast, not a particularity of DOD:S. And DOD:S is the first mod to use this enhancement. The fact that it's being sold separately doesn't make it less a mod than it is. Think of OPFOR, for instance.

I might be mistaking though... :/

And a friendly hint: "original".




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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu Sep 22nd at 5:20pm 2005

I just watched a dozen or so movies of gameplay over at IGN.com and I have to say it seems to play very much like the original DoD, but the immersion level is much much higher. At one point in the videos the Allies are capture the bridge in Anzio and I had this intense feeling that I was watching a cinematic moment unfold before my eyes. And then immediately after the capture two of the 3 were cut down by a machine gun, and I swear I actually felt bad for them. It was that immersive!

I've always loved DoD for the atmosphere and realism, and this is something that I think shines through in the videos. The audio is also amazing!

I'm looking forward to playing this game when I go home for Thanksgiving break.




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Posted by Fjorn on Thu Sep 22nd at 6:29pm 2005

well, hl2:bronze was 50... hl2:silver was 60... so if you spent the extra 10 there, you've already gotten alot for your extra $10....

HL:S, DoD:S, Entire back order....



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Posted by Agent Smith on Fri Sep 23rd at 2:05am 2005

Basically you were an idiot or a complete tight arse if you bought the Bronze pack. An idiot if your now complaining you don't get DOD: Source for free, when it was clearly stated that you wouldn't.


As far as DOD: Source goes I can't wait for it to be released. It's going to be the release that really gets me going in Source mapping. I've already got four map concepts planned out and ready for creation, ones I started making in the original DOD. So essentially DOD: Source is going to save the HL2 mapping/modding community as far as I can see, because its not another HL2 styled/type mod.



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Posted by Crono on Fri Sep 23rd at 3:24am 2005

I think I'm going to write valve. Seriously, I bought the Collectors Edition, and I pre-ordered it and payed for it before valve released the package specs. They also only explicitly said that the bronze edition it the only package to not come with it.

I think, honestly, it's pretty unfair, taking that I payed 80, nonrefundable, pre-order dollars, while I got some POS shirt, paying $10 more would get you a hat and books and s**t, and paying $20 less would get you about $40 in software. It was a cheap shot to try to screw Vivendi, but, the consumer is really the who got screwed on this, specifically. At least, if they had made it optional between CS:S and DOD:S when it came out or something.

A very poor business move, I mean ... personally, I paid for the damn thing in 2003 then learned of the CE and shelled out the extra amount, but at that point, I could get that $55 back to buy the steam packages. So ... that was retarded.

But, DoD:S does look great. Needless to say, I'm spending yet another $20 for it, when I've already shelled out $80 for this thing. (Keep in mind, that would make it so I'd have to pay $100 to get less then people who paid $90)


Blame it on Microsoft, God does.



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Posted by smidsy on Fri Sep 23rd at 8:12am 2005

well im mainly a css player but i also have a hobby in ww2..thats y i bought it n i think it looks good. Co mpaired to dod its more realistic instead of square handed men running about and having big crosshairs whcih frankly you cant hit nething with..



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Posted by Andrei on Fri Sep 23rd at 9:51am 2005

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Basically you were an idiot or a complete tight arse if you bought the Bronze pack. An idiot if your now complaining you don't get DOD: Source for free, when it was clearly stated that you wouldn't.



I for one have the retail version. I'm looking at the box right now and nowhere does it say ANYTHING about not getting DOD:S.




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Posted by Myrk- on Fri Sep 23rd at 10:15am 2005

KingNic UT2k4 and BF2 don't rely soley on another engine with no modifications. Therefor DOD:S is in fact a modification [of game content]. Plus DOD:S doesn't have any single player.


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Posted by Andrei on Fri Sep 23rd at 1:34pm 2005

Well at east someone understands my point of view.




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Posted by ReNo on Fri Sep 23rd at 1:35pm 2005

I'd change stores if I were you Crono - it doesn't strike me as right to have to pay for a preorder, without the option of a refund, BEFORE you even recieve the goods. Anywhere I've preordered in the UK give you the option to cancel at any time, and you only pay when the game is in your hands. On the odd occasion, for particularly anticipated games, there is a small deposit that contributes to the overall cost, but thats the worst I've come across.

Andrei - why WOULD it say you don't get DOD:S? All it has to do is NOT say you get it. It was made clear before the game came out what was included in each package and the bronze/retail packages contained only HL2 and CS:S. You simply cannot expect to get something for free that other people specifically paid more to recieve.




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Posted by Crono on Fri Sep 23rd at 1:49pm 2005

Yeah ... EBGames are bastards, specifically the EBX store at the mall. And, you especially can't remove pre-orders if you ordered it online. Like, you have to haggle with them. Since you can't remove a pre-order off your account after it's processed. (could be months before the product actually comes out)

Actually, they never addressed the "DoD:S-retail" thing. They never said, "None of the retail copies will have access to it", while, in all of the steam copies they said if it did come with it or not ... which is why it was confusing. Not to mention, the CE copy was/is $20 more then the Silver package on steam. The silver package gets an assload more, that's for damn sure.

And there's like nowhere else to pre-order here, really. Just the gamestop chain. There's like Best Buy and crap ... but ... bleh.


Blame it on Microsoft, God does.



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Posted by Andrei on Fri Sep 23rd at 1:53pm 2005

The only package you could have found at the moment were retail ones. No-one could have anticipated back then that VALVe were planning to release mods which require packages that weren't even announced at the time. Or at least that's how the situation was in the armpit of the world...

As for the DOD:S thing...it was never pointed out that you wouldn't have access to upcoming mods with retail punkt.

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Oh, sorry, Crono's relpy came before I pressed submit.




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Posted by French Toast on Fri Sep 23rd at 2:25pm 2005

Man, I want to play it noooooooow <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">




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Posted by ReNo on Fri Sep 23rd at 6:13pm 2005

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KingNic UT2k4 and BF2 don't rely soley on another engine with no modifications. Therefor DOD:S is in fact a modification [of game content]. Plus DOD:S doesn't have any single player.


Seems like here isn't the only place discussing the ins and outs of the "mod" definition...

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Posted by pepper on Fri Sep 23rd at 6:28pm 2005

One thing:

I didnt hear anyone whining about CS:S

i mean, it IS a modification, still its included in the hl2 game, and i already think people get more for the prize of the bronze package then you would get with other games. I dont think ANYONE has the right to complain, nobody forced you to buy a certain package, unseless you got proof of Gabe Newell pointing a gun at your head.




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