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Posted by Nickelplate on Tue Sep 27th at 12:42am 2005


I found this article a while back, but just now got around to posting it.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/11/26/master.term.reut/index.html

'Master' and 'slave' computer labels unacceptable, officials say

LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Los Angeles officials have asked that manufacturers, suppliers and contractors stop using the terms "master" and "slave" on computer equipment, saying such terms are unacceptable and offensive.

The request -- which has some suppliers furious and others busy re-labeling components -- came after an unidentified worker spotted a videotape machine carrying devices labeled "master" and "slave" and filed a discrimination complaint with the county's Office of Affirmative Action Compliance.

In the computer industry, "master" and "slave" are used to refer to primary and secondary hard disk drives. The terms are also used in other industries.

"Based on the cultural diversity and sensitivity of Los Angeles County, this is not an acceptable identification label," Joe Sandoval, division manager of purchasing and contract services, said in a memo sent to County vendors.

"We would request that each manufacturer, supplier and contractor review, identify and remove/change any identification or labeling of equipment components that could be interpreted as discriminatory or offensive in nature," Sandoval said in the memo, which was distributed last week and made available to Reuters.

The memo did not include any suggestions for alternative labels.

Dennis Tafoya, director of the affirmative action office, said in a separate memo that an "exhaustive search" had been undertaken to find all such labels and replace them with more "appropriate" ones. A form was sent to all departments to identify equipment carrying the labels "master" and "slave" or any other offensive terms.

Faced with an avalanche of complaints from vendors and the general public, Sandoval told Reuters in an interview that his memo was intended as "nothing more than a request" and not an ultimatum or policy change.

"I do understand that this term has been an industry standard for years and years and this is nothing more than a plea to vendors to see what they can do," he said. "It appears that some folks have taken this a little too literally."

Sandoval said that he had already rejected a suggestion that the county stop buying all equipment carrying the "master" and "slave" labels and had no intention of enforcing a ban on such terms with suppliers.

"But we are culturally sensitive and we have 90,000 employees," he said. "We have to take these things seriously."

Sandoval added that in addition to the e-mails he's received "telling me how stupid I am and how I should be fired" he has gotten a positive response from some companies willing to reexamine their labels.

In June, the Los Angeles city council unanimously passed a law requiring that any companies doing business with the city disclose profits they may have made from slavery in the 19th Century. In 2000, the council supported federal legislation seeking reparations for descendants of slaves.

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What are your thoughts on this sort of thing? Reparations for 200 years ago?




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Posted by French Toast on Tue Sep 27th at 12:54am 2005


I heard this on the Fortress-Forever forums... christ. I can't say anything without being racist.




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Posted by Nickelplate on Tue Sep 27th at 1:04am 2005


? quoting French Toast
I heard this on the Fortress-Forever forums... christ. I can't say anything without being racist.

Lol. I made a picture for j00. (not jew!!)




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Posted by rs6 on Tue Sep 27th at 1:12am 2005


haha nice pic.



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Posted by FatStrings on Tue Sep 27th at 2:15am 2005


so what do they want to change it to





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Posted by Nickelplate on Tue Sep 27th at 2:26am 2005


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so what do they want to change it to

Probably they want to change "master" to "Nubian King" and "slave" to "Cracker-ass white trash." ans YES they can all get away with saying that.




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Posted by French Toast on Tue Sep 27th at 2:43am 2005


I'd like to quote a member of the FF forums;

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The only creatures that can be sexist/racist/anythingelseist is the white male. TV censorship tells me that.


And it's true.




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Posted by moonracer1313 on Tue Sep 27th at 3:30am 2005


LOL, nice pic of the two hard drives.

This reminds me of this one jewish person who was offended by the name of a certain trucking compay, "Heil", which was on all of that company's trucks. Aparently the company had to remove their name from all the trucks in the town that the jewish person lived in.

I'm pretty sure no one produced any evidence that Heil is a Nazi trucking company.




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Posted by Junkyard God on Tue Sep 27th at 5:29am 2005


That's so bloody sad it makes me laugh out loud, sensitive bloody people, if ur offended by it don't buy it!


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Posted by Crono on Tue Sep 27th at 6:02am 2005


Ha ha, that picture's great.

The thing that's really annoying about this situation is that, who ever is making these complaints is being asinine. Seriously, it was some guy ... who doesn't use the devices, who made the complaint. Everyone who uses these things pretty much agrees that Mast and Slave fit perfectly. (Even Primary and Secondary do not really say what the functionality is).

The one thing that is pompous, presumptuous, and above all arrogant, is to think that the term "slave" means "black". Here's the real truth: RACE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SLAVERY. That was purely an American thing (and British thing too I guess) ... which, compared to other slavery terms, was minuscule. It was just the most recent large "epidemic". Having slaves is nothing but profitable. Every race has had slaves. Whites have enslaved whites. Black's have enslaved whites. It really doesn't matter.

I'm just getting sick of this "reparation" stuff. Seriously, The people who're now bitching about, specifically, Black slaves have no relation to people who were slaves, sure their grandparents (or now great grand parents) might have been still caught up in the slavery game, but, that doesn't include them now. It's the same thing that a lot of people just assume racism. Now, what you have to ask is ... who's more racist? The people accusing, or the people who're actually bigoting? (If that's a word)

It really seems bizarre now, because, while there are people who are racist, it isn't along the boundary of just whites hating blacks, or the other way around. Why is it okay for those same people, who're accusing people of being racist towards them, to be racist towards other people?

It really makes no sense.

It's like soccer and PTA moms who find out about some obscure game that's rated M (barley missing an AO rating) and taking it all the way to the supreme court that this one, tiny, instance is an example and accurate representation of the entire lot. Not to mention, they're probably confused now that those types of games are "bigger" and blur the lines more often ... No, I don't think it was because you gave them billions of dollars in advertisement for free ... that couldn't possibly be it. (Not to be stereotypical)

People are so ignorant some times it pisses me off. While I see the gripe ... that's all it is: a gripe. It's not like the f**king master pins are white and the slave pins are black ... or yellow ... red ... whatever random color you want to atone to flesh.

If anything, if you want to go that way, all pins are Asians enslaving Asians ... since all pins on HDDs are gold anyway.

I also don't understand why they're just up in arms about hard drives ... everything on the IDE/SATA circuit uses this setup.



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Posted by Jinx on Tue Sep 27th at 7:37am 2005


lol I agree, it's a bit ridiculous. On the other hand, though, I work at a computer store, and I always feel slightly awkward explaining how to set up IDE drives to african-american customers :x No one's ever suggested it was offensive, though! I think there are plenty of blatant examples of racism and prejudice out there, without going after something so dumb.

And to be honest... when I think "master and slave"... I tend to think S&M <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif"> I suspect that's what the designers were thinking as well. Someone should find out lol

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Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Tue Sep 27th at 11:02am 2005


For these things I sometimes think that all nukes should point to US. don't take this comment too seriously...

I missed that picture joke until I started thinking of the colours.




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Posted by Andrei on Tue Sep 27th at 12:41pm 2005


Ok, I agree being racist is bad but what these people are trying to do is simply moronic. There's nothing offensive about "master" and "slave". Now if it were "white master" and "black slave" or "white slave" and "black master", that would be racist. Seriously, these people are morons.




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Posted by jake on Tue Sep 27th at 10:34pm 2005


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What are your thoughts on this sort of thing? Reparations for 200 years ago?



To be frank, I think it's disgusting and massively out of proportion. 98.6% of white Americans didn't own slaves (figures from 1860) and yet - 145 years later - all white Americans are expected to bear the burden of guilt and shame. When will they get over it? Where is their dignity and pride? Mollycoddling in the form of affirmative action and positive discrimination does more harm than good in my opinion since it lends weight to their status as "victims"
God, how I loathe political correctness.






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Posted by Nickelplate on Tue Sep 27th at 11:33pm 2005


? quoting jake
God, how I loathe political correctness.

Political Correctness is "straightness Challanged..."

Corono, My thoughts exactly! There have probably been more Jewish (hebrew) slaves than any other kind in the world. The jews throughout history were enslaved by several countries, dynasties, and empires throughout history.

The reason they think 'slave = black' is because that's thier reality. They are slaves. The people who are doing this complaining are slaves to their own preconceptions and paradigms. They have been so indoctrinated with the thought that they are victims of white males (like everyone else) that they start to beleive it. and since so many blacks are poor and live in environments that are not conducive to learning, they don't get a chance to know any better.

Now, the fact that they "don't get a chance" to learn is thier own fault as well, you don't see white men driving by black neighborhoods and schoolyards shooting. It's the blacks that shoot blacks and the whites that shoot whites and just about the same for every group of people. So, naturally, what happens in black neighborhoods tends to be (but is not always) a small percentage of the affected black's fault. With this mentality they harbor, they are slaves, and they will be until they can be educated.

French Toast: there is a good article on reverse descrimination at Stormfront, I'll get it after dinner




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Posted by Andrei on Wed Sep 28th at 11:33am 2005


My great-grandfather was a "slave" in a russian gulag at the end of World War II. Maybe I should ask the russian government for money?

Just let the past die already.






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Posted by Loco on Wed Sep 28th at 1:00pm 2005


Ridiculous situation. This reminds me of the rumour going round that all blackboards and whiteboards were to be renamed "chalk boards" and "dry boards", and the famous example of the term "swamp" being politically incorrect. The reason? Because some folks associated it with immigrants "swamping" the country.

Don't even get me started on "positive" discrimination...






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Posted by Andrei on Wed Sep 28th at 1:44pm 2005


Jesus, they went THAT far?





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Posted by Loco on Wed Sep 28th at 1:51pm 2005


Yep, but it was heavily played-down due to the public outcry.






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Posted by fishy on Wed Sep 28th at 3:01pm 2005


? quoting Nickelplate

Now, the fact that they "don't get a chance" to learn is thier own fault as well, you don't see white men driving by black neighborhoods and schoolyards shooting.

it's their own fault that white men don't shoot at them, which leads to poorer education. i see.

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It's the blacks that shoot blacks and the whites that shoot whites and just about the same for every group of people. So, naturally, what happens in black neighborhoods tends to be (but is not always) a small percentage of the affected black's fault.

so the same thing happens on both sides of the street, which naturally follows that the black side has a poorer standard of education.

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With this mentality they harbor, they are slaves, and they will be until they can be educated.

i've only seen evidence of your mentality here, which, to be honest, doesn't impress me much.




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