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Posted by Myrk- on Wed Oct 12th at 12:28am 2005
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Posted by fraggard on Wed Oct 12th at 1:34am 2005
Myrk, that's probably one craziest thing I've heard in a looong time.... you sound like an ad for AOL or something
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Posted by Loco on Wed Oct 12th at 7:41am 2005
Sadly this is vaguely true. Courtesy of ActiveX which by the way, is a major source of problems and security flaws. Seems you can't have it both ways. I use the "open in IE" extension for Firefox, so if anything does come along I can just open up an IE window for that site. Having said that, Firefox conforms to the web standards for browsing, whilst IE doesn't, so it's probably a bad thing for any internet site to be IE only. Also, why should an internet site be able to dictate which browser I use and how I browse the web?
Just a thought.
Posted by Foxpup on Wed Oct 12th at 7:54am 2005
I'm guessing the reason IE works is because it's based on Mosaic by NCSA, in the same way MS-DOS is based on PC-DOS by IBM. As we all know, whenever Microsoft creates an original product it never works.
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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Wed Oct 12th at 7:56am 2005
Posted by Crono on Wed Oct 12th at 8:39am 2005
Morphine, fileplanet works fine in Mozilla, try the site again.
There's not much to interpreting code. All the stuff that people say "doesn't work" are things that are Microsoft only ... it'd be the same as saying, "I drive GM vehicles because they're the only ones that support OnStar" (which I'm not sure is entirely true, it's just an example) ... the point is: so? Who the hell needs OnStar, as in: you'd be in great peril and unable to use the vehicle without it.
It's kind of the same with browsers. The features IE supports that nothing else supports are candy. Colored scroll bar, for example.
Use what you like, just everyone shut up about saying which is better. From a software, security, and dynamic ability, when it comes down to it: mozilla wins. If you like IE because of the interface, fine.
I just hate it when people argue this ridiculous subject as a matter of pride. They're quantifiable applications. One is better.
Of course, this doesn't even mention any of the other 1.5 trillion browsers out there.
Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Wed Oct 12th at 8:49am 2005
Posted by Loco on Wed Oct 12th at 9:44am 2005
That's odd. Try again. It seems to be fine for me. I don't use their download manager and it seems they have a back-up system for people on other browsers (could be javascript or something like that, or just a clone of their old system). A lot of websites have started to do this, and quite frankly I really don't think they should. It's like buying a car where they say "You use unleaded petrol, but only when it's from Shell garages and not Texaco or any other company".
Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Wed Oct 12th at 9:48am 2005
Posted by Forceflow on Wed Oct 12th at 10:35am 2005
- Wrong lay-out (due to faulty/unofficial CSS or HTML)
- Functions not working because you need sloppy ActiveX
For the people who want to use firefox, but also want everything to work immediately, I can suggest this extension:
http://ieview.mozdev.org/
It adds a right click-option in firefox called "Open in IE". No time lost
http://ieview.mozdev.org/screenshots/linkshot.png
You can even define sites that should ?lways be opened in IE.
http://ieview.mozdev.org/screenshots/addmenu-shot.png
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Posted by Myrk- on Wed Oct 12th at 10:45am 2005
/me smashes the argument.
Snarkpit didn't work with firefox for 3 days. Lep had to code loads of wierd stuff because firefox has a wierd incapability to do frames and boarders- for some reason it likes to resize them all in crazy ways. Also the forum didn't work.
Sure firefox probably has no errors ever and loads pages 0.03 seconds quicker or some crap, but to be honest I can't be bothered to deal with the hassle. All the features of Firefox are in IE7 anyway.
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Posted by Dark|Killer on Wed Oct 12th at 10:52am 2005
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Posted by Loco on Wed Oct 12th at 12:32pm 2005
Interesting you should mention IE7. I looked at this a bit, but if you look a little closely, not only is IE7 trying to play catch-up to another browser, but there are several bits missing (I think it doesn't have extensions in the same easy manner as firefox, but I could be wrong). Also, it's interesting to note some of the campaigning which has been done for IE7. They claimed that adding search engines to the search bar was very simple, and something you couldn't do in Firefox, which is just plain wrong.
/looks at list of twenty search engines for search box
Certain FF functions I couldn't do without - mostly extensions. Scrapbook, All-in-one sidebar, Mouse gestures, FoxyTunes etc. IE7 may have tabbed browsing, but I wouldn't be surprised if when it's released (which is a fair way away), I stick with FF.
I've also found that using FF helps a little with web coding. If it doesn't work in FF, there's been a problem on my part, not FF's. I'm not saying "Lep must be a lousy coder" or anything like that - far from it, I wish I could code a site like the SnarkPit, but when IE is setting the standards on its own instead of the normal ones which are supposed to allow all browsers to access a site, things may well go wrong.
Anyway, as usual, just IMHO.
Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Wed Oct 12th at 2:37pm 2005
Also -- the javascript console is pretty snazzy for debugging.
Posted by Dark|Killer on Wed Oct 12th at 6:07pm 2005
Morphine, was that person a...a...ZOMBIE ??!
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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Wed Oct 12th at 6:17pm 2005
Posted by Underdog on Wed Oct 12th at 11:05pm 2005
I have been basically 100% dedicated to IE, its that simple. I however have almost always been on broadband. Years ago I had 56k, and had a browser that only loaded text but cannot recall its name. Does anyone suggest a browser that still does this? For many sites, the pictures are an annoyance I can live without now that I am once more on 56k.
For the record, I am not really crazy about browsers who claim speed but only cache pictures. If the picture was cached, it probably doesn't need to be seen at all again.
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Posted by Loco on Thu Oct 13th at 6:51am 2005
Posted by Dark|Killer on Thu Oct 13th at 10:20am 2005
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