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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Oct 14th at 4:32pm 2005

Well actually -- a lot of them didn't have any means to get out of the city. They were so poor they didn't have cars or money for public transportation. Basically, since they were very poor and black no one cared enough to get them the means to evacuate. And then when they got hit and stranded everyone just dismissed them as looters and basically left them to die. I don't see how old people and kids could be seen as looters, but they died all the same.

What is Bush's fault was letting 4 days go by post Katrina without adequately taking care of the refugees and those stranded in the city.

Someone in New Orleans (possibly the mayor?) said something along the lines of: "the first three days were a natural disaster, the next four days were a man made disaster."

Basically, the response was pitiful, and I feel bad saying that because I didnt jump on a plane to go help, but at the same time we have a government in the hope that they'd be able to take care of the people in times of crises. I don't think anyone could argue that our government did a good job handling the aftereffects of Katrina.




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Posted by Nickelplate on Fri Oct 14th at 4:46pm 2005

but everything cant be made OKAY in 4 days. they were doing SOMETHING in those 4 days. It takes more than 10 minutes to mobilize the national guard




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Posted by fraggard on Fri Oct 14th at 4:55pm 2005

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His new so called "Anti Terrorist laws", are continuing to restrict the American people's freedom, which they are claiming to be defending (Limiting freedom to protect it). Several of these laws even violate the American constitution.

In what way did these laws restrict peoples freedom? Or did you just hear this on TV and assume it was true?



Are you implying that the US Homeland Security doesn't restrict peoples' freedom? Look it up sometime. I don't even live there, but the powers owned by the DHS are just insane. It's not just unconstitutional, it's downright oppression.




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Posted by FatStrings on Fri Oct 14th at 5:20pm 2005

also on the issue of the skulls and bones

their moddo is "a skull above any other" basically meaning that no matter what power they have in the world, if a higher ranking skull tells them what to do, they have no choice but to do it. also that a skull takes precedence over anyone else





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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Oct 14th at 6:03pm 2005

I think that's baloney. I wouldn't believe that until I saw some sort of proof.




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Posted by smidsy on Fri Oct 14th at 6:54pm 2005

firstly greetings i aint been on for a while ive been workin and thus my absence.

Well im not one for saying anything bad about governments but i do agree that somethings could have been prevented...but living in Northern Ireland im sorta used to inament threat of danger through bombs etc..yes 9/11 was about 60 times more worse than any bomb here but islamic terrorists and european terrorists are completely diffrent with their jihads. but when youve been on a bombsite it does tend to drive things home...i was put on rapid responce to the omagh bomb in 1998 and let me tell you that image has stuck in my head eversince.

When you see bodys in half you just cant get round the scale of the situation.

I agree with bushes anti terror but i ask this question there are active ira cells in the us what about them...there terrorists too. I agree on his polocy to get rid of terrorism but i think that he sould look no thurther than his own country. As for new orleans thats a natural disaster no one can preevnt it from happening yes they coulda been better warned but some people just couldnt get out and thats where i think bush went rong.






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Posted by Dark|Killer on Fri Oct 14th at 7:25pm 2005

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but islamic terrorists and european terrorists are completely diffrent with their jihads.


Um hey, im a muslim myself, and i want to assure you that those "islamic" terrorists are doing nothing related to islam, and what they have done in europe and 9/11 was absolutely wrong, those terrorists are ruining the look of islam, making people think that all muslims are terrorists, and the holy quran, our religious book, didnt mention killing innoscent citizens, what they are doing is wrong, and isnt tolerated by other muslims...So, what im saying is, who collasped the towers, and exploded the underground, arent called as muslims, yet people all over the world call muslims, terrorists <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">

I really am against all the terror groups, who call themselves muslims...

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Posted by smidsy on Fri Oct 14th at 7:35pm 2005

i completely agree with you. I wasnt implying that every muslim is a terrorist i have muslem friends and they have the same view. If i seemed to be projecting that i was implying that every muslim was a terrorist i appologise.




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Posted by Dark|Killer on Fri Oct 14th at 7:37pm 2005

No no, not at all, i just wanted to notify anyone whoever may think that all muslims are terrorists dude.. and i really doubt anyone thinks that way here <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">
Dont worry bro, we're cool



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Posted by parakeet on Fri Oct 14th at 8:03pm 2005

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but everything cant be made OKAY in 4 days. they were doing SOMETHING in those 4 days. It takes more than 10 minutes to mobilize the national guard



Annnd.. if i'm not mistaken , the governor also rejected his request to aid with the national guard. WHY i'm not sure.. but it happened..



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Posted by Pegs on Fri Oct 14th at 8:29pm 2005

I know this has nothing "realy" to do with the thread, but i watched a documentry last night about UFO's. and possible links between what they could be in reality......

Most of them were secret launchings made via the US, but during WW2 germans were working on radicel designs for planes n things. one was disc shapped.. and they were working on some kind of intresting anti grav experiment where 5/7 of the people working on it snufferd.

It was mainly saying that UFO's were being kept top secret somewhere deep in the US. and that Area 51 may have tech more advanced than we think. There was a pattern in the cloads of a disc shapped plumes, that was going roughly hmm 8000 mph. (so they say) due to the distance it went in the cloads without them reshaping i presume. It was shown as a long strip accros some of the earth on a radar scan, but other than that i thought that the documentry was very intresting.

There was also apparently somewhere, where one of the "UFO's" crashing and US took these pieces and changed the story about what it was about 3 times. The thing that supprises me the most of the secracy of the UFO type things that the US has, and the fact that in WW2 Germany were working on anti grav tech.

(http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/W/weirdworlds/alien_history/index.html) is the site for checking it out any further....

As for George Bush, ill stick with the first post, i dont know what stuff he has to deal with, so i have no comment on that.

[Edit] yay i killed the thread??




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Posted by FatStrings on Sat Oct 15th at 3:08am 2005

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I think that's baloney. I wouldn't believe that until I saw some sort of proof.
George Bush senior is a member as well, and so is kerry, who was nominated by senior
so no matter who won basically the same thing would be happening
theres also proof Bush payed kerry to throw it as well




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Posted by Andrei on Sat Oct 15th at 9:50am 2005

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in WW2 Germany were working on anti grav tech.


Oh, the technology is still there, but classified and hidden at the bottom of some drawer in the darkest and mossiest corner of the NSA basement (which technically doesn't even exist anyway ). But can you imagine what an impact such means of transportation (based on the free-of-charge magnetic field that surrounds this planet)would have on world economy, given the fact that fossil fuel is one of the most important trading elements in the universe?



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Posted by G4MER on Sat Oct 15th at 1:01pm 2005

COUGH COUGH COUGH BULLs**t COUGH...

Prove it.




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Posted by French Toast on Sat Oct 15th at 1:17pm 2005

I'll have to side with MoneyShot here...




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Posted by Underdog on Sat Oct 15th at 1:47pm 2005

Can I not plead/compel someone in power to fix page #1?

Yeah, I could deal with the side scrolling but why should I have to when fixing it is so easy.

Thanks again in advance.




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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sat Oct 15th at 1:54pm 2005

How can you pay a presidential candidate to "throw" the race?

It's not like you can stumble at the last 100 yards and let them pass you... people have to vote.




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Posted by wil5on on Sat Oct 15th at 2:36pm 2005

? quoting FatStrings
George Bush senior is a member as well, and so is kerry, who was nominated by senior so no matter who won basically the same thing would be happening theres also proof Bush payed kerry to throw it as well

Thats not proof.

? quoting Andrei
But can you imagine what an impact such means of transportation (based on the free-of-charge magnetic field that surrounds this planet)would have on world economy, given the fact that fossil fuel is one of the most important trading elements in the universe?

You cant go flying around for free, its against the laws of thermodynamics. Even if this technology does exist (which I doubt) its just a different method of propulsion.




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Posted by FatStrings on Sun Oct 16th at 3:27am 2005

some guy hacked the electronic voting system in 15 minutes with a cheap laptop so every time someone voted for bush it accepted, every time they voted for kerry bush got 2 and kerry got 1
this was just a test but it shows how easy you can fix our voting system
and the paper ballots, i dont think i have to show proof for that




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Posted by wil5on on Sun Oct 16th at 4:32am 2005

It's still not proof. And if you make a claim, you should be able to prove it, even if it is obvious (which in this case, it isnt).




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