Posted by ReNo on Sun Nov 13th at 9:39pm 2005
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Posted by Crono on Sun Nov 13th at 10:49pm 2005
I'd respond to what people said, but it'll all be taken the wrong way ... I will say though, UD, if you've never worked in a game-development environment ... how can you judge as to what it's like? KFS, obviously, works in the environment you're "describing", and he has many good points.
I would imagine he'd have a better idea than most people here. As far as I know only him and Finger work at game studios.
Posted by Underdog on Sun Nov 13th at 11:39pm 2005
To answer your obvious innuendo Crono, I cannot. I did bow out in the end. What more would you wish of me?
I can only judge by, what I see on the store shelves. If thats not good enough to qualify an opinion considering its my money that bought it, what else is there? I may not have an educated opinion but I do have an uneducated one that is of no less value.
I can however acknowledge that not having a working knowledge does omit a vital piece of my viewpoint but here again I have been in middle management within other companies before and the bulls**t at the top levels is probably similar in each case. People at the top are never as cognizant as they think they are where trouble issues are concerned.
All I can say is, this discussion went as well as can be expected. It was however a good thing that no one was around to inflame it. " SRC="images/smiles/heee.gif">
Whether things will be taken wrong or not is entirely within your ability to forestall. It is however easily done since people do it to me on many occasions but with a bit of time and patience they eventually grasp my meaning even if my point is still wrong in their opinion. I am sure that when it happens to you that you are also able to rectify the incident.
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Posted by Crono on Mon Nov 14th at 12:11am 2005
I'm still not understanding your grammar at times. The way you phrase things really puts the "blame" on who ever you're conversing with ... which implies you never think you're wrong. Before you go on a rant, like a lot of people I know, saying I never think I'm wrong, that's simply not true. A lot of people forget how often I admit I'm wrong, and if I'm not sure about something I will not state it factually or forcefully. I'll also add things like, "But I'm not sure". Because I'm not.
Your posts though ... don't do this. I mean, at one point, you flat out said someone else's opinion, for the scope of this discussion, is at the same level of experience as you are, was wrong.
Some of the things you post are hypocritical, and just to give you a hint, defending hypocrisy by calling them hypocritical. It just doesn't make sense.
I'm sure in your mind your points sound well thought out, but you should work on expressing them in an open manner. That way things would stay as a discussion instead of a fight.
I'm sure this sounds weird because I'm specifically talking to you ... but no one else really cause a problem ... it all pretty much centered around your comments and your silly definition that group means team ... or something like that.
All I'm saying is ... only a few other members here have to rectify anything they say on a regular basis ...
Constructive criticism.
Posted by Underdog on Mon Nov 14th at 1:21am 2005
God dammit.
God dammit.
God dammit.
God dammit.
God dammit.
God dammit.
I had this long reply and the stinking site lost it AGAIN!!!!!!
Crono, I am weird. Learn my peculiar speech patterns and accept them instead of attempting in vain to alter them to suit your idea of "Proper"
If I say something wrong, ask for clarification. If you continue to misunderstand me its a sign of your lack in communicating. I can understand people doing it a few time but repeating it makes you look dumb.
Part of communication is learning the nuances of each others habits. I continuously say things that seem on the surface to be improper but afterward they eventually make sense to most.
Anyway, I am sorry to sound so rude this time but losing my post truly pissed me off and it was actually well thought out and courteous. Talk about dumb, I still forget to copy/paste. How damned hard headed is that? ![]()
In the end, if I say something improper assume its my peculiarness and things might progress past this constant tit for tat thing.
(/continues to cry over lost post)
Crono, I want you to contemplate something tonight. I know your first impulse will be to answer now, but I am serious, do not reply until you have thought about this in detail.
Since you and I are the only ones currently in discussion we can limit this to just ourselves.
Now, I do not for a moment consider you stupid, but I am painfully aware that you are slow on certain subjects, namely my peculiar habits of speech patterns.
Now, do not for a moment think that I am not aware of my own habits, they have been my bane for quite some time. What I want you to think about is, do you not know that you yourself are not weird free? Have you not noticed that I do not call into account every nuance you spout daily? You have an incredibly annoying habit of correcting people you have no need of doing. True, this is an open forum and each and every topic is open to the world but you seem to relish going on and on endlessly without any thought as to whom you are addressing.
My point is, I accept you as is. I am not, nor will I ever ask you to comply to my ways of thinking. I do however expect the notion to be reciprocated. I am not in need of your corrections, I am not desirable of your attentions concerning my peculiarities at all. I just expect you to accept them as is.
This is not a retaliation, nor a shifting of blame unto another. This is a request for acceptance from you to desist this constant tit for tat.
Again, I ask you to think on this tonight before you reply. Unless your post contains some hope that you will however reluctantly accept me as is, I will ignore any alternative post.
Have a good night.
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Posted by Crono on Mon Nov 14th at 3:22am 2005
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Posted by Captain P on Mon Nov 14th at 7:17am 2005
Chips.
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Posted by Underdog on Mon Nov 14th at 11:16am 2005

Well, you didn't wait, which is sad but I am glad that I finally did something right.
My deepest thanks.
Have a good day all. " SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">
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